performance design carbon pTR intake manifold

s346k · 12-12-2021, 05:06 AM

anyone using one of these? i had no idea they exist for gen v applications. they are shorter than a hi ram, but the long runner will still likely require an aftermarket hood. the short runner can use a shorter lid so it looked very close to fitting under a stock hood. the intake runner length options are nice and they (velocity stacks) appear to be easily changed. for sure lighter than a hi ram and much cleaner. i'm definitely going to give one a shot.

https://www.performancedesign.com/pr...age/carbon-ptr

of course i fondled the manifold and they had it sitting right next to a hi ram, but i did not take any pictures.

i believe they are $1299. i think the price is 100% reasonable for what the manifold offers.

runner length options:

6.5, 8 & 9 inches
165, 203.2, & 228.6 millimeters

comparison:

LT1 155-225 mm (unequal length)
LT2 210 mm
msd 198 mm
hi ram 165 mm

only power comparison ive read about was on a stock c8. supposably gained 25+ whp with a LT5 tb on an otherwise stock car. naturally, i'm skeptical.

6spdhyperblue · 12-12-2021, 06:37 AM

I like it.

Fingers crossed it fits under the hood in one configuration

NYblack1le · 12-12-2021, 11:33 AM

Don’t see a specific lt1 application. I know they have one for the lt2 but with almost a 90 degree throttle body snout for the c8. The c8 lt2 version is like $2000. I run the carbon lid on my hi ram and love it.

Trochoidal · 12-12-2021, 12:48 PM

So here are the dimensions of stock, performance design and hi-ram. The pTr intake is shorter. I hope you find this fits under our hoods if you get one.

6spdhyperblue · 12-12-2021, 01:03 PM

Top of the LT2 cover is less than 10.5”

Puddin · 12-12-2021, 02:09 PM

In its stock configuration the Ptr manifold will not fit with the stock hood. I contacted them several months ago asking about this and they told me no it will not fit.

Puddin · 12-12-2021, 02:24 PM

Here is a link to the Lt version. https://www.mastmotorsports.com/coll...ntake-manifold

NYblack1le · 12-12-2021, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Puddin

Here is a link to the Lt version. https://www.mastmotorsports.com/coll...ntake-manifold

That’s sick. I would love to see some data. CID has there manifold coming out but to go back to plastic and make some gains over the hi ram and I’m sold.

Puddin · 12-12-2021, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NYblack1le

That’s sick. I would love to see some data. CID has there manifold coming out but to go back to plastic and make some gains over the hi ram and I’m sold.

Yeah the Cid looks killer but it's another one that won't fit under the stock hood. Ryan over at GPI nipped that one real quick. He said it's going to be a no holds barred type of manifold for the higher spinning motors.

NYblack1le · 12-12-2021, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puddin

Yeah the Cid looks killer but it's another one that won't fit under the stock hood. Ryan over at GPI nipped that one real quick. He said it's going to be a no holds barred type of manifold for the higher spinning motors.

I bought another hood and cut it. Can always go back.

s346k · 12-12-2021, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puddin

Yeah the Cid looks killer but it's another one that won't fit under the stock hood. Ryan over at GPI nipped that one real quick. He said it's going to be a no holds barred type of manifold for the higher spinning motors.

define "higher spinning". i've seen several dynos of 225 cams spinning 7500+ with a msd.

Puddin · 12-12-2021, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s346k

define "higher spinning". i've seen several dynos of 225 cams spinning 7500+ with a msd.

7500 to 8k plus. It's also going to be taller than the High Ram.

17camaroSS · 12-13-2021, 08:15 PM

I fondled it as well, I’d like to eventually test it against the hi ram I have now. The lid is an inch taller than the hi ram, and would be like having a 1” spacer with a hi ram. The CID intake an inch taller than the hi ram and the runners are half inch shorter than the hi ram. Neither of the 3 will fit under the factory hood.

s346k · 12-14-2021, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 17camaroSS

I fondled it as well, I’d like to eventually test it against the hi ram I have now. The lid is an inch taller than the hi ram, and would be like having a 1” spacer with a hi ram. The CID intake an inch taller than the hi ram and the runners are half inch shorter than the hi ram. Neither of the 3 will fit under the factory hood.

you don't think the short runner with the short lid would fit? their tallest offering was still shorter than the hi ram.

12-12-2021, 05:06 AM	#1
s346k Drives: like an old lady Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: indiana Posts: 2,396	performance design carbon pTR intake manifold anyone using one of these? i had no idea they exist for gen v applications. they are shorter than a hi ram, but the long runner will still likely require an aftermarket hood. the short runner can use a shorter lid so it looked very close to fitting under a stock hood. the intake runner length options are nice and they (velocity stacks) appear to be easily changed. for sure lighter than a hi ram and much cleaner. i'm definitely going to give one a shot. https://www.performancedesign.com/pr...age/carbon-ptr of course i fondled the manifold and they had it sitting right next to a hi ram, but i did not take any pictures. i believe they are $1299. i think the price is 100% reasonable for what the manifold offers. runner length options: 6.5, 8 & 9 inches 165, 203.2, & 228.6 millimeters comparison: LT1 155-225 mm (unequal length) LT2 210 mm msd 198 mm hi ram 165 mm only power comparison ive read about was on a stock c8. supposably gained 25+ whp with a LT5 tb on an otherwise stock car. naturally, i'm skeptical. __________________ 2016+ camaro: everyone’s first car Last edited by s346k; 12-12-2021 at 05:21 AM.

12-12-2021, 06:37 AM	#2
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,676	I like it. Fingers crossed it fits under the hood in one configuration __________________ ‘22 2SS 1LE M6 Summit White - RF, Flexfuel, LT2 intake, 95mm tb, ATI udp, VT ramair, full 28” dragpack - 11.68@122 ‘16 1SS M6 LT2 intake + boltons on DR 11.0@126+ (Sold)

12-12-2021, 12:48 PM	#4
Trochoidal Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: May 2019 Location: USA Posts: 1,656	So here are the dimensions of stock, performance design and hi-ram. The pTr intake is shorter. I hope you find this fits under our hoods if you get one. Attached Images __________________ Roto-Fab w/sound tube delete, Katech ported TB, Pray IM, Velossa, DD side markers, DSX FF, UPR Catch can, Halo brace, My custom vent gauge pod Originally Posted by arpad_m - “Aww, yet another oil thread with almost the same question in the OP“

12-12-2021, 01:03 PM	#5
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,676	Top of the LT2 cover is less than 10.5” __________________ ‘22 2SS 1LE M6 Summit White - RF, Flexfuel, LT2 intake, 95mm tb, ATI udp, VT ramair, full 28” dragpack - 11.68@122 ‘16 1SS M6 LT2 intake + boltons on DR 11.0@126+ (Sold)

12-13-2021, 08:15 PM	#13
17camaroSS Drives: Chevy Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Indiana Posts: 225	I fondled it as well, I’d like to eventually test it against the hi ram I have now. The lid is an inch taller than the hi ram, and would be like having a 1” spacer with a hi ram. The CID intake an inch taller than the hi ram and the runners are half inch shorter than the hi ram. Neither of the 3 will fit under the factory hood. __________________ 2017 1SS:Hi-Ram, FBO, OTR ram air, Circle D converter. Previous PB: 11.07 @124 1/4 7.1 @100 1/8 1.6 60’ w/2” longtubes, 95mm hi-ram, OTR ramair, flex fuel

12-12-2021, 11:33 AM	#3
NYblack1le Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: NY Posts: 395	Don’t see a specific lt1 application. I know they have one for the lt2 but with almost a 90 degree throttle body snout for the c8. The c8 lt2 version is like $2000. I run the carbon lid on my hi ram and love it.

12-12-2021, 02:09 PM	#6
Puddin Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Central Texas Posts: 1,011	In its stock configuration the Ptr manifold will not fit with the stock hood. I contacted them several months ago asking about this and they told me no it will not fit.

12-12-2021, 02:24 PM	#7
Puddin Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Central Texas Posts: 1,011	Here is a link to the Lt version. https://www.mastmotorsports.com/coll...ntake-manifold

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