[Roostie]

The V8 is better and money factored into my decision. I test drove both cars and the V6 had more fun and lively handling for the street. It feels like you can drive it hard without immediately going too fast, and it's easier to approach its limits on the street . Also, it's fun to have an underdog car for autocross and track.

[Altered Carbon]

Originally Posted by Roostie

The V8 is better and money factored into my decision. I test drove both cars and the V6 had more fun and lively handling for the street. It feels like you can drive it hard without immediately going too fast, and it's easier to approach its limits on the street . Also, it's fun to have an underdog car for autocross and track.

Well I can absolutely understand that. I'm glad you enjoy it for sure. If a person loves cars and takes care of what they drive, I don't care what kind of vehicle it is or what engine is in it. Much respect to all of them. ...unless they act like douche bags.

[JT58]

Bang for the buck, low cost to own and operate as I near retirement. I average about 35 MPG, regular gas, low insurance. It also allows me to have multiple other low cost to own vehicles- at least for now while I am still working and saving for retirement.

Sure, if I had a lot more money, or I was younger and was working, working, working, making payments and had a full career ahead of me, I would own an SS 1LE and and/or a C7.

But I paid my dues and I am coasting to retirement now. You can still have a lot of fun with a V6 Camaro in retirement versus a cookie cutter Corolla, Accord, Altima, etc.

[RyanR623]

Originally Posted by JT58

Bang for the buck, low cost to own and operate as I near retirement. I average about 35 MPG, regular gas, low insurance. It also allows me to have multiple other low cost to own vehicles- at least for now while I am still working and saving for retirement.

Sure, if I had a lot more money, or I was younger and was working, working, working, making payments and had a full career ahead of me, I would own an SS 1LE and and/or a C7.

But I paid my dues and I am coasting to retirement now. You can still have a lot of fun with a V6 Camaro in retirement versus a cookie cutter Corolla, Accord, Altima, etc.

35mpg? Damn. I average 21mpg. My insurance went from $63 a month to $48 a month due to Progressives covid policy. At least one good thing came from that damn thing.

[JT58]

Originally Posted by RyanR623

35mpg? Damn. I average 21mpg. My insurance went from $63 a month to $48 a month due to Progressives covid policy. At least one good thing came from that damn thing.

My work commute is over flat back roads- going 50-55 MPH with only a few stops. Engine is cruising in 6th gear, temperatures always warm in the 70's-90's and AC is off- I love windows down being from the Northeast. Ideal gas mileage conditions although I do a few pulls once in a while. The new wheels and tires and exhaust helped get the mileage up, from 32-33, which it was stock.

[redcoats1976]

2015 V6 owner here.i got mine as a year old CPO car.would never use all of the V8 on the street,and i like the way the 6 sounds,not too loud,but sporty.

[wilbur_xmas]

Originally Posted by Altered Carbon

Out of curiosity; What makes you all that can afford the newer (2016+) V8 choose the V6 instead?

I am certainly not hating on the 6 at all, I dig the V6. I had to drive one while my car was getting some work done and it's way more fun than the V6 Mustang I had back in 2004. I'm just legitimately curious. I personally love the power of the 8, but anything can be made fast. Aside from power though, even if they had the same amount of TQ/HP, I just love the mean sound of my V8 too much. Nothing like it, and I wouldn't want to part with that rumble.

Similar to Roostie, the marginally lighter weight and nimbler feeling of the V6 appeals to me. Money wasn't much issue since the gas mileage, insurance, and cost aren't too far apart. I prioritize handling over power and on the very twisty roads I drive for fun I can rarely open the V6 up fully for more than a few seconds at a time so the V8 would actually be less enjoyable (slow car fast vs. fast car slow and all that). I'll be doing some track time to develop my driver mod so maybe I'll want the extra power after a while. I also have a motorcycle for F U power, so if I want to make things disappear behind me quickly I have another toy for that. The sound of the V8 and the rumble is very nice, but the V6 with NPP is certainly no slouch in the aural enjoyment department.

[Altered Carbon]

Originally Posted by wilbur_xmas

Similar to Roostie, the marginally lighter weight and nimbler feeling of the V6 appeals to me. Money wasn't much issue since the gas mileage, insurance, and cost aren't too far apart. I prioritize handling over power and on the very twisty roads I drive for fun I can rarely open the V6 up fully for more than a few seconds at a time so the V8 would actually be less enjoyable (slow car fast vs. fast car slow and all that). I'll be doing some track time to develop my driver mod so maybe I'll want the extra power after a while. I also have a motorcycle for F U power, so if I want to make things disappear behind me quickly I have another toy for that. The sound of the V8 and the rumble is very nice, but the V6 with NPP is certainly no slouch in the aural enjoyment department.

I can understand and respect that, but when it comes to people saying they like being able to approach its limit or opening it up on the street or even a track. You can go the same speed, just use less throttle in the V8. I may be misinterpreting that though, but I wouldn't want to reach my cars limit on the street or track, especially the street. I can't reach my cars limit on anything but the salt flats or something, but I wouldn't really want to... well, maybe once or twice.

I like knowing that I have that extra power if I need or want it. But putting it to its limit though I feel is like eating until you puke or almost puke or something (acceptable on holidays!) instead of eating and then holding off some and not pushing your stomach to it's limit to know you have room for dessert if you want.

As far as handling, just as anything can be made fast, the suspension, sway bars, brakes and tires could be upgraded/added as well for handling. Or someone could just get a 1LE. Like I said in my original post though, this is for the people that can afford either with no financial problems. And hooray for F U power

But again, I'm not hating or knocking on the 6 at all. I was just curious, if finances were not an issue.

[foshjowler]

Originally Posted by Altered Carbon

I can understand and respect that, but when it comes to people saying they like being able to approach its limit or opening it up on the street or even a track. You can go the same speed, just use less throttle in the V8. I may be misinterpreting that though, but I wouldn't want to reach my cars limit on the street or track, especially the street. I can't reach my cars limit on anything but the salt flats or something, but I wouldn't really want to... well, maybe once or twice.

I like knowing that I have that extra power if I need or want it. But putting it to its limit though I feel is like eating until you puke or almost puke or something (acceptable on holidays!) instead of eating and then holding off some and not pushing your stomach to it's limit to know you have room for dessert if you want.

As far as handling, just as anything can be made fast, the suspension, sway bars, brakes and tires could be upgraded/added as well for handling. Or someone could just get a 1LE. Like I said in my original post though, this is for the people that can afford either with no financial problems. And hooray for F U power

But again, I'm not hating or knocking on the 6 at all. I was just curious, if finances were not an issue.

The way I view the modern V8s is; 1st gear is all wheel spin, top of 2nd gear is ticket land unless you're on the highway, 3rd is big-ticket/jail, and 4th is more jail or dead. I've done the 400+ hp V8 with a 2011 Mustang and ended up with a 41 over ticket coming off an on-ramp. There is something to be said about being able to keep the throttle pinned for longer before you're getting in trouble.

[foshjowler]

Originally Posted by wilbur_xmas

Similar to Roostie, the marginally lighter weight and nimbler feeling of the V6 appeals to me. Money wasn't much issue since the gas mileage, insurance, and cost aren't too far apart. I prioritize handling over power and on the very twisty roads I drive for fun I can rarely open the V6 up fully for more than a few seconds at a time so the V8 would actually be less enjoyable (slow car fast vs. fast car slow and all that). I'll be doing some track time to develop my driver mod so maybe I'll want the extra power after a while. I also have a motorcycle for F U power, so if I want to make things disappear behind me quickly I have another toy for that. The sound of the V8 and the rumble is very nice, but the V6 with NPP is certainly no slouch in the aural enjoyment department.

I see it as not buying something like a 370z. There is a distinct void of new cars that are RWD and 300ish hp. I personally like that amount of power, it's enough not to feel like a dog, but not so much that you're getting into trouble any time you want to floor it.

[Altered Carbon]

Originally Posted by foshjowler

The way I view the modern V8s is; 1st gear is all wheel spin, top of 2nd gear is ticket land unless you're on the highway, 3rd is big-ticket/jail, and 4th is more jail or dead. I've done the 400+ hp V8 with a 2011 Mustang and ended up with a 41 over ticket coming off an on-ramp. There is something to be said about being able to keep the throttle pinned for longer before you're getting in trouble.

I just get good tires, better suspension and don't drive completely insane. I don't ever feel the need to pin the throttle down often. I of course get the thrill that comes with it and I do it occasionally, that's a given, but I just make sure I drive with sense and self control. Like I wouldn't pin it on ice, wet roads, heavy traffic, roads I've never been on or anywhere I know police might be. I'll pin it for 8 and half seconds on a 1/4 track and satisfy my thrill. Or a little local airport I have nearby (I know that's not an option for everyone obviously) but, other than that, I just drive normally 97% of the time. I just like knowing I have the power if I need/want it.

[foshjowler]

Originally Posted by Altered Carbon

I just get good tires, better suspension and don't drive completely insane. I don't ever feel the need to pin the throttle down often. I of course get the thrill that comes with it and I do it occasionally, that's a given, but I just make sure I drive with sense and self control. Like I wouldn't pin it on ice, wet roads, heavy traffic, roads I've never been on or anywhere I know police might be. I'll pin it for 8 and half seconds on a 1/4 track and satisfy my thrill. Or a little local airport I have nearby (I know that's not an option for everyone obviously) but, other than that, I just drive normally 97% of the time. I just like knowing I have the power if I need/want it.

Straight line racing just isn't my discipline of choice, and I've never been in a situation where more than 300 or so hp would have gotten me out of a situation. There's definitely an argument to be made about having more power than something like a BRZ though.

It's also fun to beat much faster cars at autox where the extra power means nothing, and it's mostly up to chassis and driver. I wanted to go back to CAM (Classic American Muscle) class, it allows for pretty open modifications, and a couple of years ago a 2.0T Camaro won nationals and then Randy Pobst bought a 2.0T Camaro.

[wilbur_xmas]

Originally Posted by Altered Carbon

I can understand and respect that, but when it comes to people saying they like being able to approach its limit or opening it up on the street or even a track. You can go the same speed, just use less throttle in the V8. I may be misinterpreting that though, but I wouldn't want to reach my cars limit on the street or track, especially the street. I can't reach my cars limit on anything but the salt flats or something, but I wouldn't really want to... well, maybe once or twice.

I like knowing that I have that extra power if I need or want it. But putting it to its limit though I feel is like eating until you puke or almost puke or something (acceptable on holidays!) instead of eating and then holding off some and not pushing your stomach to it's limit to know you have room for dessert if you want.

As far as handling, just as anything can be made fast, the suspension, sway bars, brakes and tires could be upgraded/added as well for handling. Or someone could just get a 1LE. Like I said in my original post though, this is for the people that can afford either with no financial problems. And hooray for F U power

But again, I'm not hating or knocking on the 6 at all. I was just curious, if finances were not an issue.

Yeah I feel that approaching the limits on the street in any remotely sporty car is a one way ticket to or . for me it's not at all about speed. But if the argument is to have big HP and also not push the limits on the street, well that sounds a lot like being hung like a porn star and taking a vow of celibacy. Yes anything can handle great, but the Alpha platform is incredible and requires little to no modification out of the box to meet my specific needs. I did get a 1LE, a V6 1LE because that was the engine I felt was the best balance for the type of driving I like to do and finances didn't factor into that decision.

Originally Posted by foshjowler

Straight line racing just isn't my discipline of choice, and I've never been in a situation where more than 300 or so hp would have gotten me out of a situation. There's definitely an argument to be made about having more power than something like a BRZ though.

It's also fun to beat much faster cars at autox where the extra power means nothing, and it's mostly up to chassis and driver. I wanted to go back to CAM (Classic American Muscle) class, it allows for pretty open modifications, and a couple of years ago a 2.0T Camaro won nationals and then Randy Pobst bought a 2.0T Camaro.

Funny you say that, a BRZ was one of the cars I cross shopped against. 370Z, BRZ/FR-S, Mustang Ecoboost/GT, and Camaro SS were all contenders. The 370Z seemed like too much money for the capability, the BRZ was fun but like my previous Miata needed a bit more oomph to be a good daily driver, the Mustang Ecoboost sounded bad, wasn't sharp enough, and the seating position was terrible. And the Mustang GT (2018+) and Camaro SS were just too powerful for what I was looking for. I have strange tastes, I acknowledge that, but this is my Goldilocks car and kudos to GM for making the performance package available on all Camaro models and not just the most powerful engines.

[Altered Carbon]

Originally Posted by wilbur_xmas

Yeah I feel that approaching the limits on the street in any remotely sporty car is a one way ticket to or . for me it's not at all about speed. But if the argument is to have big HP and also not push the limits on the street, well that sounds a lot like being hung like a porn star and taking a vow of celibacy. Yes anything can handle great, but the Alpha platform is incredible and requires little to no modification out of the box to meet my specific needs. I did get a 1LE, a V6 1LE because that was the engine I felt was the best balance for the type of driving I like to do and finances didn't factor into that decision.

That's pretty much what I was curious about. If it meets your standards from the engine, I 100% get it. Like you said, with how it's the best balance for the type of driving you like to do. It's the same with me for my car. I just use less throttle but still have fun, and if I need more power, it's there in spades. But in my earlier post, even if they had the same HP and TQ, I just love the sound of the LT1. But pushing the limits to me reads "Nearly blowing my engine up.", which as I said, I may be interpreting that wrong. I definitely put my foot to the floor every now and then, just not to the point of seeing where 1350hp will take me. I just don't want to push the envelope and risk hurting anything. Like revving a car and keeping it in the red for 5 minutes straight.