Any issues with headers and heat?

JGiovando · 01-09-2019, 08:33 PM

General question here. I'm installing headers next week and was curious if there are any issues with heat. I've seen some posts about melting wires, etc. Obviously need to zip tie as needed to keep things out of the way but when I spoke to the sales guy at Kooks and asked him about the spark plug boot protectors, he said in his honest opinion they weren't needed. Any thoughts on that?

dragoo · 01-09-2019, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JGiovando

General question here. I'm installing headers next week and was curious if there are any issues with heat. I've seen some posts about melting wires, etc. Obviously need to zip tie as needed to keep things out of the way but when I spoke to the sales guy at Kooks and asked him about the spark plug boot protectors, he said in his honest opinion they weren't needed. Any thoughts on that?

I just got myself some MSD wires just to be sure. On my driver side 2 of the 4 plugs touch the header. I added the sleeves for the mean time but I would just get the msd ones just to be sure. They are 80$ and look cool too

JonD · 01-09-2019, 10:08 PM

ARH 2x3” installed and I don’t see a reason to be concerned with OEM plugs.

JGiovando · 01-10-2019, 06:20 AM

Thanks for the replies guys. Appreciate the input and advice.

biker2k · 01-10-2019, 06:41 AM

I got the boots figure it couldn't hurt..
I saw a dyno test where the car lost 10 hp with msd wired, maybe just an anomaly but stock wires work fine..

jeffm4688 · 01-10-2019, 08:17 AM

I burned halfway through one of the stock wires a few months after putting on headers which caused a random misfire. Was a fun thing to hunt down as it was throwing a CEL. I now have MSD wires and much prefer them as you can bend them away from the header.

KingLT1 · 01-10-2019, 08:53 AM

Yea there are heat issues with headers. The starter, plug wires, and wiring harness on passenger side need to be addressed or you will have issues. Not a big deal if you know that going into the project.

biker2k · 01-10-2019, 09:25 AM

the starter is already covered in heat shielding so I didn't address it....
hope that is ok

Umbriel · 01-10-2019, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by biker2k

the starter is already covered in heat shielding so I didn't address it....
hope that is ok

I didn't either on mine so hopefully that won't cause any issues.

oldman · 01-10-2019, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by biker2k

the starter is already covered in heat shielding so I didn't address it....
hope that is ok

It will cook, the starter and part of the header need to be wrapped. IMO of course.

6spdhyperblue · 01-10-2019, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman

It will cook, the starter and part of the header need to be wrapped. IMO of course.

Agreed. Gotta wrap them if u don’t have a coating

JGiovando · 01-10-2019, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman

It will cook, the starter and part of the header need to be wrapped. IMO of course.

What do you mean by wrap the starter and header? With what and where do you get it?

Umbriel · 01-10-2019, 11:28 AM

Nothing on mine is wrapped and I haven't had any issues with anything, yet. I'll cross that bridge when/if it arises.

Dubchitts · 01-10-2019, 11:28 AM

All I did on mine is rotate the wire where it plugs into the coil just enough to take the slack away from the header. Ez as that

01-09-2019, 08:33 PM	#1
JGiovando Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE HBM Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 161	Any issues with headers and heat? General question here. I'm installing headers next week and was curious if there are any issues with heat. I've seen some posts about melting wires, etc. Obviously need to zip tie as needed to keep things out of the way but when I spoke to the sales guy at Kooks and asked him about the spark plug boot protectors, he said in his honest opinion they weren't needed. Any thoughts on that?

01-09-2019, 10:08 PM	#3
JonD Drives: 2018 SS 1LE Join Date: May 2018 Location: Arizona Posts: 292	ARH 2x3” installed and I don’t see a reason to be concerned with OEM plugs. __________________ 🌽 Sauced, 2018 SS 1LE - 123mph @ 5,000 DA ARH 2”x3” FULL System, Pray Ported MSD Intake Manifold, Pray Ported GM 95mm TB, RotoFab CAI, DsX e85 Kit, MightyMouse Catch Can, NicD Tune https://instagram.com/corn_sauced?ut...d=o0ako89uurwl

01-10-2019, 06:41 AM	#5
biker2k Drives: 2018 2ss 1le Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 474	I got the boots figure it couldn't hurt.. I saw a dyno test where the car lost 10 hp with msd wired, maybe just an anomaly but stock wires work fine.. __________________ 2018 2ss 1le roto fab dry, Stainless works 1 7/8 lt to 3'" x pipe with highflow cats to stock npp, soler 95mm t/b, edelbrock 2300, LT4 fueling , jms bap and dsx flex fuel, 618/620 on e45 rwhp Jannetty Motorsports tuned

01-10-2019, 08:17 AM	#6
jeffm4688 Drives: 2015 Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 102	I burned halfway through one of the stock wires a few months after putting on headers which caused a random misfire. Was a fun thing to hunt down as it was throwing a CEL. I now have MSD wires and much prefer them as you can bend them away from the header. __________________ 2015 2SS - Base A6 - Sold/Brother/Traded 2016 Camaro 2SS - A8 \| MRC \| NPP \| 725rwhp - RIP 2015 2SS 1LE - RS/Sunroof Mods: Headers, Borla ATAK, intake - Sold 2018 M2 Exec - Current

01-10-2019, 08:53 AM	#7
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,798	Yea there are heat issues with headers. The starter, plug wires, and wiring harness on passenger side need to be addressed or you will have issues. Not a big deal if you know that going into the project. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

01-10-2019, 06:20 AM	#4
JGiovando Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE HBM Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 161	Thanks for the replies guys. Appreciate the input and advice.

01-10-2019, 09:25 AM	#8
biker2k Drives: 2018 2ss 1le Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 474	the starter is already covered in heat shielding so I didn't address it.... hope that is ok __________________ 2018 2ss 1le roto fab dry, Stainless works 1 7/8 lt to 3'" x pipe with highflow cats to stock npp, soler 95mm t/b, edelbrock 2300, LT4 fueling , jms bap and dsx flex fuel, 618/620 on e45 rwhp Jannetty Motorsports tuned

01-10-2019, 11:28 AM	#13
Umbriel Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Bartlett, TN Posts: 1,121	Nothing on mine is wrapped and I haven't had any issues with anything, yet. I'll cross that bridge when/if it arises.

01-10-2019, 11:28 AM	#14
Dubchitts Drives: '17 Red hot 2ss, 16 Focus RS Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 845 View My Garage	All I did on mine is rotate the wire where it plugs into the coil just enough to take the slack away from the header. Ez as that __________________ "Spitfire" 427ci 2017 Red Hot 2SS// 6 Piston Brembos//Adrenaline Red Interior, Knee Pads//M6//MRC Afe Air Filter//BMR MM010 Motor Mounts, Safety Loop//Custom OTR Intake//Flex Fuel Kit//Gforce 3.5" Aluminum Driveshaft//GM 95mm TB//Katech Oil Pump, Piston Squirters//Kooks 1-7/8 LT//LT4 Fueling//Mighty Mouse Wild//Monster Clutch LT1-S Triple Disc//MSD 2-Step//Pray Performance Custom Spec Cam, Ported Holley Hi-Ram//Sikky 12" Shifter w OEM Knob Mod//Tick Level 1 Tr6060//Labor by Me//Tune By Pray Performance

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