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Old 09-27-2018, 10:26 PM   #99
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Has anyone owned both a 5th gen Z28 and a 6th gen ZL1 1LE. Is the 6th gen DSSV setup more harsh on the street than the 5th gen?
yes and yes Very much so!

The 6th gen is on stiffer springs and solid mounts
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Old 09-27-2018, 11:32 PM   #100
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yes and yes Very much so!

The 6th gen is on stiffer springs and solid mounts
A street version spring would be awesome
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Old 09-28-2018, 07:47 AM   #101
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A street version spring would be awesome
It's a coil spring, so you can find alternatives pretty easily. The dampers are going to remain pretty harsh though.
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Old 09-28-2018, 08:11 PM   #102
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A street version spring would be awesome
I think the ZL1 1LE uses standard 2.5" springs, so it would be fairly easy to get springs that are lets's say ~25% softer all around. However, I don't know how well the shocks would be matched to them.
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Old 09-28-2018, 08:40 PM   #103
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I think the ZL1 1LE uses standard 2.5" springs, so it would be fairly easy to get springs that are lets's say ~25% softer all around. However, I don't know how well the shocks would be matched to them.
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Old 11-05-2018, 03:30 PM   #104
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yes and yes Very much so!

The 6th gen is on stiffer springs and solid mounts
is the DSSV setup actually track/race worthy?

It seems more of a street/trackday setup to me?
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Old 11-05-2018, 03:41 PM   #105
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is the DSSV setup actually track/race worthy?

It seems more of a street/trackday setup to me?

lol have you ever driven a zl1 1le on the streets ?? its a bone jarring drive
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Old 11-05-2018, 03:47 PM   #106
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lol have you ever driven a zl1 1le on the streets ?? its a bone jarring drive
Or track for that matter. lol

DSSV shocks are used on F1 cars as well as other professional racing formats
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Old 12-31-2018, 06:22 PM   #107
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Well well well!
I just ready this whole tread for the first time just now! Man where the hell have I been?

My take on this whole discussion is the driver should only consider running these shocks when they are right on the edge. How will you know if you are there? Well it's easy...if you need to ask that question then you are not there!
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Old 12-31-2018, 06:27 PM   #108
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I find Sport 1 to way to intrusive.

Here's the FE4 Lap:
https:/www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABFyyAEMY18

Here's the FEA Lap:
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Old 12-31-2018, 09:00 PM   #109
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Well well well!
I just ready this whole tread for the first time just now! Man where the hell have I been?

My take on this whole discussion is the driver should only consider running these shocks when they are right on the edge. How will you know if you are there? Well it's easy...if you need to ask that question then you are not there!
I feel like I'm running close enough to the edge to know the FEA suspension isn't a significant lap time upgrade over the FE4 (for PittRace at least). I think the added adjustability and the difference in tire wear were worth the upgrade for me, but I wouldn't recommend the swap for anyone who drives their car on the street.

When are you coming out to PittRace?
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By the way I neglected to say excellent thread by the way!

Yeah I'll come out. who do you drive with? I'll talk to the guy that runs our club and see if we can get a track day at Pitt.
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Old 01-01-2019, 10:07 AM   #111
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By the way I neglected to say excellent thread by the way!

Yeah I'll come out. who do you drive with? I'll talk to the guy that runs our club and see if we can get a track day at Pitt.
Thanks. I wish the results were more favorable. Given these results and the Ask Al suspension test results, I think it's fair to say the advantage the DSSVs has/had over the MRC is disappearing. GM wrote off the terrible lap times in their test by saying the DSSVs are not tuned for the weight of the SS, but I don't think that accounts for the entire difference. That excuse certainly doesn't apply to my test.

It'd be interesting to see GM engineer a ZL1 1LE magnetic ride suspension setup where ride quality isn't a factor. I'd bet it'd be faster than the DSSVs and probably still ride better.

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SWP Performance
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(and a few others I can't remember)

I'll pretty much signup with any club that has an opening on a day I'm available. If you want your club to book at PittRace, don't wait. I'm pretty sure they sold out the track early last year.
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Thanks. I wish the results were more favorable. Given these results and the Ask Al suspension test results, I think it's fair to say the advantage the DSSVs has/had over the MRC is disappearing. GM wrote off the terrible lap times in their test by saying the DSSVs are not tuned for the weight of the SS, but I don't think that accounts for the entire difference. That excuse certainly doesn't apply to my test.

It'd be interesting to see GM engineer a ZL1 1LE magnetic ride suspension setup where ride quality isn't a factor. I'd bet it'd be faster than the DSSVs and probably still ride better.

Last year at PittRace I ran with:

SWP Performance
Chin Track Days
3 Balls Racing
AutoInterests
SCCA TNiA
(and a few others I can't remember)

I'll pretty much signup with any club that has an opening on a day I'm available. If you want your club to book at PittRace, don't wait. I'm pretty sure they sold out the track early last year.
I haven't driven the DSSV's (ZL1 1LE) at speed and with something like a triple digit sweeper with a dip in the middle of the turn to know, but I suspect that is where the difference would be felt between the MRC and the DSSV shocks.

When I had my M3 with Ohlin coil-overs, the ride quality sucked compared to MRC, but there is a certain on-ramp sweeper near me that when traffic is light, I can take at 110ish and there is a small dip in the middle of the turn and with the Ohlins on the M3, the rebound recovery was IMMEDIATE and RIGHT NOW.

With MRC on the SS 1LE at the same speed, the recovery is still controlled but not as immediate, it does it a little more lazier. I suspect that would be the same difference with having the DSSV shocks, a little quicker reacting and recovery.

However, the penalty for having that is a harsh ride the rest of the time. Overall I LOVE the MRC over the Ohlins about 90% of the time.
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