[shaffe]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

I agree most wouldn't choose the Camaro if money was no consideration, but I wouldn't say none. Some of us are not into "yuppy" euro or luxury vehicles.

I am by no means extremely wealthy but I do ok, enough to able to have had a GS and an SS 1le at the same time. You would have never caught me in a European car with a cost of entry that equaled the GS and SS 1le combined, not due to the money just preferance.

If money was no object I'd have a zr1, zl1 1le, and a gt350r as my sports cars of choice. I'm just a simple hillbilly who likes what he likes lol.

I'd love to say I would share your choice of rides, but I think if I had that kind of money where I could even consider buying a car that costs 6 figures I'd probably be a snob and end up in said car lol

[minn19]

Originally Posted by oldman

The V8 is just as light as the flat 6 when all is said and done, especially on my Bro's car since he has an aftermarket turbo setup, so it really is NOT a drag race package.

He is for you electric guys, be prepared to be surprised.
http://vonnen.com/performance-metrics/


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I'm not sure if this is what you are saying, but I'm not an electric car guy. I just know the writing is on the wall in a number of ways and it is inevitable.

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by minn19

I turn 50 in a few years and the ZLE should be paid off. If there is a manual version of GT4 Cayman (or a nice used one) then that would be a nice little stable mate. As good as the PDK is, I think I'd still stay with the manual.

Oh my bad forgot you were a hardcore manual (manmission lol) guy as well, had you mixed up with ZRacerLE who has an a10 zl1 1le I believe. Yea the pdk is great but so is the Porsche m6, it would be my choice as well.

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by shaffe

I'd love to say I would share your choice of rides, but I think if I had that kind of money where I could even consider buying a car that costs 6 figures I'd probably be a snob and end up in said car lol

Nothing wrong with that either lol... I had a McLaren 570 kick there for a while there myself, I still appreciate said cars even though I joke or bust balls about being snobby, yuppy or whatever.

[ZRacerLE]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

Oh my bad forgot you were a hardcore manual (manmission lol) guy as well, had you mixed up with ZRacerLE who has an a10 zl1 1le I believe. Yea the pdk is great but so is the Porsche m6, it would be my choice as well.

I've already convinced myself, my c6z was the last manual I'll own. Everything is going to DCT and then electric. I'm pretty simple minded about it. I'm just looking to win time trials with the latest tech and keeping the car as stock as possible. Weird quest, I know.

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by ZRacerLE

I've already convinced myself, my c6z was the last manual I'll own. Everything is going to DCT and then electric. I'm pretty simple minded about it. I'm just looking to win time trials with the latest tech and keeping the car as stock as possible. Weird quest, I know.

That's definately the way of the future, who knows the camaro6 might be the last manual GM vehicle produced. I assume the s650 mustang will have an m6 option also but after that, it'll probably be relegated to sub 400 hp Japanese sports cars/hatches for the most part imo. This next gen of m3s and m4s too, but after that they'll probably phase it out too for dct's and traditional torque converters.

I meant no offense by the manmission thing btw, just personal preference and ball busting lol.. shoot your last m6 vehicle had less nannies and aids than the 6th gens.

[ZRacerLE]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

That's definately the way of the future, who knows the camaro6 might be the last manual GM vehicle produced. I assume the s650 mustang will have an m6 option also but after that, it'll probably be relegated to sub 400 hp Japanese sports cars/hatches for the most part imo. This next gen of m3s and m4s too, but after that they'll probably phase it out too for dct's and traditional torque converters.

I meant no offense by the manmission thing btw, just personal preference and ball busting lol.. shoot your last m6 vehicle had less nannies and aids than the 6th gens.

No offense taken at all my man!

I'm loving this "race tuned" A10 so much. Really cool focusing on just race line, braking, throttle, and cornering traction. It's making me faster for sure.

With the C6Z, heel toe down shifting became 2nd nature, but it still took up mental bandwidth that took away from the other phases.

If someone doesn't road race, then I could definitely see how an automatic would become boring though.

[TheRealJA105]

Originally Posted by ZRacerLE

I've already convinced myself, my c6z was the last manual I'll own. Everything is going to DCT and then electric. I'm pretty simple minded about it. I'm just looking to win time trials with the latest tech and keeping the car as stock as possible. Weird quest, I know.

Originally Posted by ZRacerLE

No offense taken at all my man!

I'm loving this "race tuned" A10 so much. Really cool focusing on just race line, braking, throttle, and cornering traction. It's making me faster for sure.

With the C6Z, heel toe down shifting became 2nd nature, but it still took up mental bandwidth that took away from the other phases.

If someone doesn't road race, then I could definitely see how an automatic would become boring though.

My man! We have the same thinking, but I still think I'll buy another manual at some point... More for the pure enjoyment, knowing i'll be slower (which is hard to swallow for TT)

[ZRacerLE]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

My man! We have the same thinking, but I still think I'll buy another manual at some point... More for the pure enjoyment, knowing i'll be slower (which is hard to swallow for TT)

Can't go wrong either way. I do hope manual sticks around in case I start missing it.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

Oh my bad forgot you were a hardcore manual (manmission lol) guy as well, had you mixed up with ZRacerLE who has an a10 zl1 1le I believe. Yea the pdk is great but so is the Porsche m6, it would be my choice as well.

No prob

Originally Posted by ZRacerLE

I've already convinced myself, my c6z was the last manual I'll own. Everything is going to DCT and then electric. I'm pretty simple minded about it. I'm just looking to win time trials with the latest tech and keeping the car as stock as possible. Weird quest, I know.

Nothing wrong with equipping the car for whatever your goals are. Either hitting a time or just for fun etc.

[LESS1]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

I agree most wouldn't choose the Camaro if money was no consideration, but I wouldn't say none. Some of us are not into "yuppy" euro or luxury vehicles.

I shopped GT350R, Porsche 718 S, GTS and GT4, C7 GS and Z06 as well as SLE and ZLE. After plenty of research and test drives, I went with SLE because for my track car use case it was the best option. Additionally, I just couldn't see spending 718 money and then potentially wad it up on track. Not saying it's ok to wad up any of the others, just a lot less hurt on the wallet should it happen. And yes I know all about track insurance... good luck with re-sell should you use it.

[LESS1]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

Minus the DSSV shocks. I would definitely go GT4 if they put the DSSV on the Z06. I doubt it though, they always go MRC on the Vette's.

Now if they went all out and put Ohlin coilovers on it, I would be all over it. But I doubt they would go that route.

Why sweat the suspension when you can change it out? C8 Z06 has the potential to be the best under 300K super car available. For that level of performance and the low cost (relative), I'd spend the 6K plus on an Ohlins set up along with another 6k plus for AP brakes and wouldn't give it a second thought.

[LESS1]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

Naive or maybe you're just talking out of your ass.

I don't care where a vehicle is made, I currently own two Miatas a long with my American muscle.

What the cars that I mentioned offer on top of the classic American muscle badges is a front engine rwd manual transmission setup which I am partial to and a great performance per dollar value. You won't find that anywhere else, and definately not in a European vehicle. Porsches are amazing machines, just not my cup of tea.

I'm naive but yet you've stated your preferances for cars that can't handle and spinout all over the place plenty of times lol. Different strokes for different folks, we all have our preferances.

Agree and I must be naive or just simple because I don't see any muscle cars on your list. Just a nice collection of world class sports cars for those that don't want to drop close to or more than 100K to join the Euro club.

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by LESS1

I shopped GT350R, Porsche 718 S, GTS and GT4, C7 GS and Z06 as well as SLE and ZLE. After plenty of research and test drives, I went with SLE because for my track car use case it was the best option. Additionally, I just couldn't see spending 718 money and then potentially wad it up on track. Not saying it's ok to wad up any of the others, just a lot less hurt on the wallet should it happen. And yes I know all about track insurance... good luck with re-sell should you use it.

My sentiments exactly.