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Old 06-25-2018, 11:42 AM   #1
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Those dang brake vents on the SS

Hey guys, sorry for the spam of questions.. I tried searching for this.

For a first time track event, is putting those on necessary?

I don't have the tools to do it (yet) and I'm gonna be charged $100 to do it.

But my main concern is the rain.. Forecast is putting some rain down during the track day and GM suggests to not keep them on in the case of rain. So I'm stuck between having hot brakes or warped ones from the rain (?)

For those with an SS, what have you done?
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Old 06-25-2018, 11:55 AM   #2
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yes yes yes lol


btw i put mine on and left them but i live in cali and it doesnt rain much and i also dont drive my car much so oh well
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Old 06-25-2018, 02:38 PM   #3
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Hey guys, sorry for the spam of questions.. I tried searching for this.

For a first time track event, is putting those on necessary?

I don't have the tools to do it (yet) and I'm gonna be charged $100 to do it.

But my main concern is the rain.. Forecast is putting some rain down during the track day and GM suggests to not keep them on in the case of rain. So I'm stuck between having hot brakes or warped ones from the rain (?)

For those with an SS, what have you done?

On my SS, I put on the brake cooling ducts and never took them off. My time to warp the rotors was on a dry track and I was just hustlin' the car like normal. From a raining and on the track perspective, I wouldn't go out. Windows down, in the rain, sounds like a wet interior and that gives me more pause than warped rotors.
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Old 06-25-2018, 10:50 PM   #4
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My dealer would charge me $200 for removing rotor splash shield and putting on tall deflector. I ended up doing it myself and left them on all the time. I think it's really necessary to remove the splash shield behind the rotor as it completely blocks the air to cool the rotor. Someone posted a thread saying he ran into soft brake after only one session with the splash shield on. I don't remember if that was his first time on track, though
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Old 06-26-2018, 06:21 AM   #5
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On my SS, I put on the brake cooling ducts and never took them off. My time to warp the rotors was on a dry track and I was just hustlin' the car like normal.
Bet you overheated a couple of pads instead.


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From a raining and on the track perspective, I wouldn't go out. Windows down, in the rain, sounds like a wet interior and that gives me more pause than warped rotors.
That depends somewhat on the car's specific aerodynamics. Some water will come in, but it probably won't be as much as you fear. Been there (and there isn't much traffic in wet sessions).


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Old 06-26-2018, 06:38 AM   #6
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My dealer would charge me $200 for removing rotor splash shield and putting on tall deflector. I ended up doing it myself and left them on all the time. I think it's really necessary to remove the splash shield behind the rotor as it completely blocks the air to cool the rotor.
Where you want the air to mostly go is into the rotor so it flows between the vanes and cools both sides of the rotor. You'd want the splash shield to have an opening about where the ones in splash shields designed to accept a cooling duct have theirs, or possibly an abbreviated shield that retains metal in places to shield things like tierod ends from brake heat.


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Someone posted a thread saying he ran into soft brake after only one session with the splash shield on. I don't remember if that was his first time on track, though
Sounds more like a fluid issue or possibly a first-timer using the brakes more like he does on the street.


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Bet you overheated a couple of pads instead.
Since I didn't have the backing plates installed, my pads lasted fairly well. I did upgrade to Hawk rotors and Hawk pads.

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That depends somewhat on the car's specific aerodynamics. Some water will come in, but it probably won't be as much as you fear. Been there (and there isn't much traffic in wet sessions).


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Since an open window draws in air, it would likely draw in rain the same way. I just wouldn't have chanced it.

I am pretty sure that if you were to run a track session during one of our afternoon rain squalls, you would have a very wet interior.
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:31 AM   #8
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Since I didn't have the backing plates installed, my pads lasted fairly well. I did upgrade to Hawk rotors and Hawk pads.
Which Hawk pads?



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Since an open window draws in air, it would likely draw in rain the same way. I just wouldn't have chanced it.

I am pretty sure that if you were to run a track session during one of our afternoon rain squalls, you would have a very wet interior.
You mean like this? Wipers were on high speed.





One bath towel was enough to dry everything that got wet inside (other than the driver-side footwell, which I didn't bother with), wiping down at the end of each of all four sessions.


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Old 06-26-2018, 10:59 AM   #9
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I keep the duct kit on all summer, hasn't been an issue thus far. I swap them off with the change from summer to winter tires, and vice-versa.

As far as rain during the event, I've done it. While driving the rain isn't bad at all, but sitting in the pit/staging area was pretty wet...
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