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Old 10-21-2019, 11:43 PM   #15
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Maybe someone secretly installed the "tornado"?

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Old 10-21-2019, 11:50 PM   #16
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ha, i can't believe those are still around..

what about one of these?

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Old 10-22-2019, 12:00 AM   #17
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There's no way the LT2 is making as much horsepower as the LT4.

The issue I can see with the LT2 going in the SS is the intake manifold looks really tall. I'm not sure it can fit with the same setup. Maybe the dry sump will allow them to push it down far enough in the bay to clear the hood.
Yes, you don't get something for nothing. If you can up the compression ratio, cram more fuel and air in there (charging) or change some other significant aspect about it, then you can get more HP and TQ, but just changing intake bodies and manifolds on factory exhaust engines with full cats isn't going to get you close to LT4 HP. A 6.2 pushrod isn't going to make drastically more power unless there are some drastic measures taken, it already takes drastic measures to push it to around 500hp at the crank.
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Old 10-22-2019, 12:03 AM   #18
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It's not 650 but it's probably more than 495.
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Old 10-22-2019, 12:47 AM   #19
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Just playing around with some online calculators and at a weight of 3580 lbs and horsepower of 495, they all show around an 11.0 ET and 121 trap speed.
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Old 10-22-2019, 06:43 AM   #20
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There's no way the LT2 is making as much horsepower as the LT4.

The issue I can see with the LT2 going in the SS is the intake manifold looks really tall. I'm not sure it can fit with the same setup. Maybe the dry sump will allow them to push it down far enough in the bay to clear the hood.
It sounds like a SS/LT1-LT4ish hood bubble to me. Let's trim development costs to make it feasible. That would be very cool.

Come on Chevy! give us at least that motor for a new Z/28 ands dump the SS 1LE!! Forget the DOHC V8, too complcated, expensive and big. And give us both port and DI injection. Screaming small block Chevy OHV engines are so much fun. Get them while you can.

And let the Camaro go into the sunset with an LT5 in the ZL1. A proper ending to the Camaro story.
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Old 10-22-2019, 09:36 AM   #21
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A new Z/28? No way, if it’s a stripped, overpriced, track-focused car like the last one with a value that drops like a rock within a year of its release. (Or never sells - my dealer had 13 on the lot, priced as low as $20K off MSRP, and they still wouldn’t sell.)

As far as the SS 1LE, it’s the best-handling, best-balanced, best-value Camaro that exists today. It’s the Camaro model that should have been named the Z/28, in line with the performance and value principles of the original 1967 Z/28.
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Old 10-22-2019, 09:37 AM   #22
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Just playing around with some online calculators and at a weight of 3580 lbs and horsepower of 495, they all show around an 11.0 ET and 121 trap speed.
My car went 11.2 @ 122 mph at full weight for a 2SS so 3685 and I weight 175 putting it at 3860 and it put down 492 rwhp.
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ha, i can't believe those are still around..

what about one of these?
That beast should be used strictly on the track. You just can't hook with one of those monsters and street tires...
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Old 10-22-2019, 04:45 PM   #24
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A new Z/28? No way, if it’s a stripped, overpriced, track-focused car like the last one with a value that drops like a rock within a year of its release. (Or never sells - my dealer had 13 on the lot, priced as low as $20K off MSRP, and they still wouldn’t sell.)

As far as the SS 1LE, it’s the best-handling, best-balanced, best-value Camaro that exists today. It’s the Camaro model that should have been named the Z/28, in line with the performance and value principles of the original 1967 Z/28.
Agreed the 5th gen Z/28 was not a sales hit and a bit misguided. It was too serious. But it had the best Chevy small block ever!!

So add the LT2 as an option to the SS1LE along with ZL1/LE suspension and aero call it the Z/28.

I strongly disagree that the SS 1LE is the best value. The base SS is a great track car also so it is a better value to track. Of course the SS 1LE is faster on a track if you know what you are doing. I am not knocking the SS 1LE it is a great Camaro. If you track and don't mind spending $7K extra. IT is not nearly as focused as that last Z/28 was however. And for the price of a 2SS 1LE you can buy a very lightly used ZL1. Who wouldn't prefer that? And it has already taken its biggest depreciation hit. Just talking value here.

Of course the very best V8 Camaro value now is clearly the LT1/LT1. All its missing from the SS is track cooling and rear Brembos. Most of the other things missing is mostly fluff. But if you are a tracker you should get at least the SS.
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Old 10-22-2019, 06:20 PM   #25
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And for the price of a ... you can buy a
I vote to ban this line from all automotive boards. It's the most ridiculous reoccurring nonsensical argument ever.

You can buy a used gran sport, or Z06, or porsche, or whatever. It's never a valid argument. You can almost always buy something used that was more expensive when retailed.
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Old 10-22-2019, 07:54 PM   #26
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More like Motor Trend’s dyno is broken and the dum$$es there don’t have a clue.
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Old 10-22-2019, 08:41 PM   #27
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More like Motor Trend’s dyno is broken and the dum$$es there don’t have a clue.
I doubt it’s broken. But dynos can vary drastically in absolute readings.
They are really only useful for comparing changes or comparing two cars side by side.
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Old 10-23-2019, 03:42 AM   #28
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I doubt it’s broken. But dynos can vary drastically in absolute readings.
They are really only useful for comparing changes or comparing two cars side by side.
Those curves are not normal and the results are not normal. In fact nothing about it is normal except the hp and torque crossing at 5252. The author was clueless and the editors are idiots for publishing obviously bad information.
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