05-28-2020, 05:16 PM | #15 | |
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Camaro is not intended to be a low volume car, at least low like it is now, 40,000 ish. Camaro volumes are now at the point it's a good year for Corvette.
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05-28-2020, 07:04 PM | #17 |
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I just bought my Camaro and I love it. I hope it lasts me a long time. It would be a bummer to see GM do away with it. I think it's a beautiful car.
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05-29-2020, 11:06 AM | #18 |
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GM was never that invested in the Camaro. It’s not going to get better now that sales are falling.
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05-29-2020, 11:35 AM | #19 |
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If they're going to go that far off the rails I'd rather they just make it into a true SPORT utility vehicle instead of an electric anything. A modern El Camino even. Mix the sporty looks and powertrain with high ground clearance and off road capabilit with more room in the trunk.
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05-29-2020, 01:13 PM | #20 | |
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05-29-2020, 02:21 PM | #21 |
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7th Gen Camaro will just be a rebadged MB C63 AMG Coupe, made in Germany, just with some Chevy tweaking and even the interior will be MB.
(Three guesses which car I am trying to joke about, first two don't count). As for the original question, nah, probably not worth it. 6th Gen Camaro was already eating into potential C7 sales, and now that C8 got a nice big gap between it and the 6th Gen Camaro, I don't think GM would want to shrink that gap again.
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05-29-2020, 04:32 PM | #22 |
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More expensive, probably. Now we've got the LT1 now but I know given the options, especially on the used market, I'd buy a 5.0 over a V6 camaro for the same price if I had a budget to stick to and I'm a Chevy guy and am a huge Camaro fan. I looked at a 2020 2SS earlier this week new on the lot and it was almost as high of an MSRP as my LT Trail Boss and the LTZ Z71 I looked at. Obviously, they're two different markets there, but these cars are expensive, and at $52k for an SS almost anybody would go for a C7 at that price, or even a used hellcat.
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05-30-2020, 02:35 PM | #23 |
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offer the LT5 for the ZL1 as a option.It would be a waste of money in development to put in the ZR1 for only one year.Make the LT5 optional and it will make the ZL1 more of a competitor vs. the GT500 and the Hellcat.Is that really to much to ask?
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I don't think they'll be able to get the full 495HP without the 4 into 1 headers, optimized intake path and cam (which relies on the other optimizations to really do it's thing). The best we can hope for is a version of that intake that will fit on the LT1 as a separate part #, if it fits under the stock SS hood to begin with.
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I wouldn't go so far as to say that there was a lot of development from GM to make the LT5. Was there money spent? Sure. But I wouldn't imagine that it was substantial enough for it to matter that it was only in the ZR1 for a year.
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Why did demand fall? In part because a lot of people buy them as toys that they don’t drive. Like you?
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Now, the Mustang beyond that does play a role in Camaro sales. Ford did a pretty good job with that car, and made the choice much tougher for a lot of people. To answer the original question, the LT2 will be Corvette exclusive for at least the next two years, I firmly believe. |
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05-30-2020, 10:25 PM | #28 | |
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If there was a perfect storm of what not to do to make a car sell better, GM did it with the 6th gen. Pricing it higher and making it less practical is not going to increase sales particularly in that market. They thought increasing performance would make up the difference, but it didn't work. They tried that with the 4th gen back in '98 when the LS1 came out with dismal results. The 6th gen is number 3 in sales behind both the Mustang and ancient Challenger. |
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