[Cgocifer]

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

They were not terrible for the time. I owned several of them and they were better and faster than the competition. That didn't equate to enough sales though.

True, most cars were terrible in the 80s and 90s.

Everyone is kidding themselves if they think the camaro and any other car, especially those with V8s will survive another 10 years. Trucks and SUVs are outselling cars 5 to one.

[yankee]

Originally Posted by Cgocifer

:-/ I dont think most people want it to fail, I just think they are exercising their right to freedom of speech and saying its ugly. Well, to a bunch of folks, it is ugly.

Nobody wants it to fail. On the contrary.

We, the “ugly people” want GM to notice that the design of the car is a fail by being vocal on the internet and on sales. Simply we want to tell GM to go back to the drawing board so that the next gen / refresh will not be a fail.

How else can you show them that we want another design? We are not frustrated [“owners of the previous gen”], we want GM to know that they have to change the design.

Because we love Camaro, we just want it back the way it was: mean and sexy

[Quinten_33]

If the next gen is coming as a 2022 model, the design of it is finalized already

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Cgocifer

:-/ I dont think most people want it to fail, I just think they are exercising their right to freedom of speech and saying its ugly. Well, to a bunch of folks, it is ugly.

Maybe people who get all worked up over differing opinions on the internet should get some comfort animals or playdough to help get through it

Maybe you should start a 16-18 vs 19 thread so you can debate it endlessly with pictures of Chargers and Honda’s.

It’s gotten real old having the same group hurl the same insults every time someone posts a picture of a 19. This is a Camaro enthusiast site. New owners love their cars. It’s time for you to move on...or move your dislike to a haters thread.

[Cgocifer]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Maybe you should start a 16-18 vs 19 thread so you can debate it endlessly with pictures of Chargers and Honda’s.

It’s gotten real old having the same group hurl the same insults every time someone posts a picture of a 19. This is a Camaro enthusiast site. New owners love their cars. It’s time for you to move on...or move your dislike to a haters thread.

Ok, enough with over exaggerated outrage. No need for personal attacks. This is a free country and I assume a free forum. I'll go where I please. No need to get all upset if people have differing opinions than you. What's next? How about banning everyone who has an opinion you dont like. Hmmmm

Actually, I've posted several posts in these '19 threads where I said "to each their own, some will love it and some will hate it." That is true and I'm sorry if you think that people stating their personal opinions that differ from your opinion offends you. Maybe you would be happier in an echo chamber safe space where everyone only shares your opinion. The 2019 is a polarizing design which has been noted by numerous automotive journalists. So, get used to it.

My guess is that not everyone likes the Hotwheels (myself included) or the 1LE. That's life and I certainly could care less.

[AZCamaroFan]

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

They were not terrible for the time. I owned several of them and they were better and faster than the competition.

[Sheriff37]

When the refresh came out I wasn't sure about it. However after being able to configure it, the new design has definitely grown on me

[Turkish01]

Originally Posted by Sheriff37

When the refresh came out I wasn't sure about it. However after being able to configure it, the new design has definitely grown on me

Agreed