Non Bose 6x9 install for the rear deck lid - Page 2

KingLT1 · 04-07-2018, 07:30 AM

Bump for those looking for info to tackle the same project.

7stringtheory · 04-07-2018, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KingLT1

Bump for those looking for info to tackle the same project.

The problem with using the rear output from the head unit is that it is not a full range signal. This is why everyone taps the front and deals with the amplified chimes as best we can. My tuner tried to EQ them out as best he could.

KingLT1 · 04-07-2018, 10:47 AM

I tested it both ways with test tones and I get good bass using the rears just like the fronts but without amplified chimes. how else could the system go from 105db @ 50hz to 117db adding the rear 6x9. Yeah there might be a a high pass filter in place below 45-50hz, but it don't matter because you don't want 6x9 speakers playing any lower. Actually the door 6x9 could benefit from a high pass filter of 50hz.

fwiw, these 6x9's are -2db @ 50hz, so they will extend well into the 40hz range and I did not get any deeper bass using the front input.

7stringtheory · 04-07-2018, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KingLT1

bullshit...I tested it with test tones and I get a full range bass.

Well I dont know what you tested, but it is not bullshit and has been confirmed by multiple people.

Keep in mind that I am speaking about tapping the head unit from a 1LE that does not have any factory amplifier whatsoever.

KingLT1 · 04-07-2018, 11:02 AM

well then why are you in my thread telling me I am wrong? This is for the 1SS non Bose that has a amplifier. I have been installing stereos both home and car for 23yrs bud, I have a clue.

7stringtheory · 04-07-2018, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KingLT1

well then why are you in my thread telling me I am wrong? This is for the 1SS non Bose that has a amplifier. I have been installing stereos both home and car for 23yrs bud, I have a clue.

I am in your thread clarifying because earlier in your thread someone with a 1LE came in and asked if what you were saying would carry over to his 1LE and you said that not having an amp shouldnt make any difference... You are bumping this thread and I dont want people to be mislead.

KingLT1 · 04-07-2018, 01:50 PM

All I said was the 1LE should have a factory amp and was corrected that it does not. Then I said to Mike after the fact was that the front channel has all the tones and chimes directed through them. I never said anything about the 1LE rear channel being full range.

7stringtheory · 04-07-2018, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KingLT1

All I said was the 1LE should have a factory amp and was corrected that it does not. Then I said to Mike after the fact was that the front channel has all the tones and chimes directed through them. I never said anything about the 1LE rear channel being full range.

dude im not attacking anything you are saying. I just want to clarify if someone who has a 1LE reads this.

Miami_1LE · 04-08-2018, 09:13 PM

1LE does have an amplifier. It's located behind the glove box. a little bit of a pain in the ass to get too but that's where it is. I recently added 2 amps to the car.

7stringtheory · 04-08-2018, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Miami_1LE

1LE does have an amplifier. It's located behind the glove box. a little bit of a pain in the ass to get too but that's where it is. I recently added 2 amps to the car.

That is not an amp. This has already been discussed countless times in other threads. That is the tuner that you are tapping into, its not an amplifier. Now we are starting to derail dudes thread. sorry for that.

KingLT1 · 04-09-2018, 05:02 PM

It's all good...go ahead and get the correct information out in the open. I edited the op to reflect that what I have found only pertains to the 1SS Non Bose w/ Amp system.

brettman · 04-10-2018, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KingLT1

It's all good...go ahead and get the correct information out in the open. I edited the op to reflect that what I have found only pertains to the 1SS Non Bose w/ Amp system.

After all the research (hope I didn't pick your brain clean KingLT1)
IMHO, the 1SS system is real worth it (another plus) EX: Pop the truck access the audio system. Old school: lay on your back under the dash...lol

KingLT1 · 04-10-2018, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brettman

After all the research (hope I didn't pick your brain clean KingLT1)
IMHO, the 1SS system is real worth it (another plus) EX: Pop the truck access the audio system. Old school: lay on your back under the dash...lol

Nope you didn't...and I agree the 1SS system with non bose amp is the easiest system to upgrade the sound.

T Black · 04-14-2018, 07:39 AM

KingLT1 are you still monitoring this thread? I have a couple question I would like to ask. Would you please explain the reverse polarity and the wires you cut because of exhaust like sounds at certain RPM's. I put a Kenwood Amp and 6x9's in my 1SS and its sound pretty good but at around 3000 to 4000 rpm's I am getting a very loud hum over the speaker system. The first question about the Reverse Polarity is to mainly understand what and why. I installed everything as per instructions and if I can make sound better, that would be great. Thanks in advance!

04-07-2018, 07:30 AM	#15
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,800	Bump for those looking for info to tackle the same project. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

04-07-2018, 10:47 AM	#17
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,800	I tested it both ways with test tones and I get good bass using the rears just like the fronts but without amplified chimes. how else could the system go from 105db @ 50hz to 117db adding the rear 6x9. Yeah there might be a a high pass filter in place below 45-50hz, but it don't matter because you don't want 6x9 speakers playing any lower. Actually the door 6x9 could benefit from a high pass filter of 50hz. fwiw, these 6x9's are -2db @ 50hz, so they will extend well into the 40hz range and I did not get any deeper bass using the front input. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA Last edited by KingLT1; 04-07-2018 at 10:59 AM.

04-07-2018, 11:02 AM	#19
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,800	well then why are you in my thread telling me I am wrong? This is for the 1SS non Bose that has a amplifier. I have been installing stereos both home and car for 23yrs bud, I have a clue. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

04-07-2018, 01:50 PM	#21
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,800	All I said was the 1LE should have a factory amp and was corrected that it does not. Then I said to Mike after the fact was that the front channel has all the tones and chimes directed through them. I never said anything about the 1LE rear channel being full range. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA Last edited by KingLT1; 04-07-2018 at 04:12 PM.

04-09-2018, 05:02 PM	#25
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,800	It's all good...go ahead and get the correct information out in the open. I edited the op to reflect that what I have found only pertains to the 1SS Non Bose w/ Amp system. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

04-08-2018, 09:13 PM	#23
Miami_1LE Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Miami Posts: 155	1LE does have an amplifier. It's located behind the glove box. a little bit of a pain in the ass to get too but that's where it is. I recently added 2 amps to the car.

04-14-2018, 07:39 AM	#28
T Black Drives: 2017 SS1 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Slippery Rock, PA Posts: 1	KingLT1 are you still monitoring this thread? I have a couple question I would like to ask. Would you please explain the reverse polarity and the wires you cut because of exhaust like sounds at certain RPM's. I put a Kenwood Amp and 6x9's in my 1SS and its sound pretty good but at around 3000 to 4000 rpm's I am getting a very loud hum over the speaker system. The first question about the Reverse Polarity is to mainly understand what and why. I installed everything as per instructions and if I can make sound better, that would be great. Thanks in advance!

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