[The1DoubleN]

Some more reasons:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347649

[TECHTURTLE]

Shipped!!!

[Mishimoto]

Originally Posted by TECHTURTLE

Got an email today pushing me back to around the 14th...

Originally Posted by 1badrwd

Yeah so did I! So much for the parts coming in today for them. Really wishing I wouldn't have paid full price through them. Only did it because they said they were in stock when I ordered it!

Originally Posted by TECHTURTLE

Shipped!!!

Sorry for the confusion guys. If ordered directly from us, you should now have tracking. If not, shoot me a PM with your full name and I will check out your order.

Originally Posted by Brutus2

What does this item do for a non-turbo car like the SS?

Originally Posted by TECHTURTLE

Keeps oil from coking on your valves... On direct injection engines there is no fuel in the intake to help keep them clean.

Exactly! Check out the link below for more information about the stock systems and the creation of our kit.

http://engineering.mishimoto.com/?cat=445

Thanks
-John

[andrec10]

Ordered one this morning and already have a tracking #!

[Mishimoto]

Originally Posted by andrec10

Ordered one this morning and already have a tracking #!

Excellent! Thank you for the order.

-John

[TECHTURTLE]

I installed mine today... Well worth the wait!

[moonrider]

I understand what they do, but do you really need one on a non turbo car or any modern engine? If it was such a problem, why would they not include a system from the factory?

[andrec10]

Originally Posted by moonrider

I understand what they do, but do you really need one on a non turbo car or any modern engine? If it was such a problem, why would they not include a system from the factory?

Take a look at some of the pics of cars with only a few hundred miles on them. manifold and intake coated in oil. Before, DI, you could run a fuel cleaner, now, it would not do anything for the valves, or the intake.

[drivingagain]

Originally Posted by moonrider

I understand what they do, but do you really need one on a non turbo car or any modern engine? If it was such a problem, why would they not include a system from the factory?

Just think of the catch cans for people that like their equipment in pristine condition or as much as possible at all times.

Do you need to clean and relube your chain every 300 miles on your RC8? Did they make one that does it from the factory? They do make chain oilers for motorcycles. Kind of the same thing. You can wait until your chain wears out or you can wait until your engine is losing power to oil being burnt on the valves. The rest of us will stick with better maintenance to prevent either from happening.

[andrec10]

Originally Posted by TECHTURTLE

I installed mine today... Well worth the wait!

Did it take around 30 mins?

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by drivingagain

Just think of the catch cans for people that like their equipment in pristine condition or as much as possible at all times.

Do you need to clean and relube your chain every 300 miles on your RC8? Did they make one that does it from the factory? They do make chain oilers for motorcycles. Kind of the same thing. You can wait until your chain wears out or you can wait until your engine is losing power to oil being burnt on the valves. The rest of us will stick with better maintenance to prevent either from happening.

I really wish there was more data and facts on this problem.

We have documented evidence that on early generation DI engines from BMW and Audi the problem was bad, AND widespread. countless pictures, countless threads, countless shops offering cleaning etc...

We simply dont have that with a lot of current generation DI engines from GM right now. Look at the corvette forums, look at the truck forums, all you will find is "talk" plus pictures posted of 2007 BMWs.

My point is that i wish we had data on when current generation DI engine. If its a higher mileage problem, than people who dont plan on keeping the car more than a few years shouldn't be adding catch cans.

I plan on keeping my car for probably 3-4 years with around 30-40k miles projected. I am stuck in a crossroad if i should even care about adding one.

[Mishimoto]

Originally Posted by TECHTURTLE

I installed mine today... Well worth the wait!

Thanks! Great to hear.

Originally Posted by moonrider

I understand what they do, but do you really need one on a non turbo car or any modern engine? If it was such a problem, why would they not include a system from the factory?

Originally Posted by andrec10

Take a look at some of the pics of cars with only a few hundred miles on them. manifold and intake coated in oil. Before, DI, you could run a fuel cleaner, now, it would not do anything for the valves, or the intake.

Although a turbo car is likely to produce more fluid accumulation through the CCV system, NA vehicles definitely benefit as well. Several folks on the forums have posted images of oil coated intake manifolds after very little mileage. Our product testing revealed around 20ml of fluid collection in just 1100 miles. Keeping this oil out of the intake tract will make a significant impact on valve buildups over time.

Originally Posted by mikeSS

I really wish there was more data and facts on this problem.
We have documented evidence that on early generation DI engines from BMW and Audi the problem was bad, AND widespread. countless pictures, countless threads, countless shops offering cleaning etc...
We simply dont have that with a lot of current generation DI engines from GM right now. Look at the corvette forums, look at the truck forums, all you will find is "talk" plus pictures posted of 2007 BMWs.
My point is that i wish we had data on when current generation DI engine. If its a higher mileage problem, than people who dont plan on keeping the car more than a few years shouldn't be adding catch cans.
I plan on keeping my car for probably 3-4 years with around 30-40k miles projected. I am stuck in a crossroad if i should even care about adding one.

Thanks for the input Mike. I definitely understand your position in terms of the time-span of ownership. Depending upon who the next owner is, they may appreciate the installation of such a component.

Thanks
-John

[bobshannon22]

How often should we drain the can?

[drivingagain]

Originally Posted by mikeSS

I really wish there was more data and facts on this problem.

We have documented evidence that on early generation DI engines from BMW and Audi the problem was bad, AND widespread. countless pictures, countless threads, countless shops offering cleaning etc...

We simply dont have that with a lot of current generation DI engines from GM right now. Look at the corvette forums, look at the truck forums, all you will find is "talk" plus pictures posted of 2007 BMWs.

My point is that i wish we had data on when current generation DI engine. If its a higher mileage problem, than people who dont plan on keeping the car more than a few years shouldn't be adding catch cans.

I plan on keeping my car for probably 3-4 years with around 30-40k miles projected. I am stuck in a crossroad if i should even care about adding one.

I think I would add one for resale value later on at the least. Yes if you sell it to the dealer then it will not matter. I sell my cars to private buyers. I can easily show maintenance records and the fact my car vs. another car in the market is a better value. We are talking about $300 max on a 40k automobile. I will have that in oil changes by the time I hit 40k miles. Although I would hope that a New Camaro owner would check this forum first. Then they would see number one thing to check on a 40k mile car is that a catch can was added early in its life. Just my thoughts.