[newmoon]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

1997 Toyota Supra Turbo

MSRP: $39,900

Adjusted for Inflation: $63,687

2020 Supra Mk V Premium: $ 54,920

So adjusted for inflation the Supra is actually a better performing, lighter and cheaper car than the old Mk IV.

The Supra is priced accordingly and the market will respond by paying MSRP and above.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by newmoon

The Supra is priced accordingly and the market will respond by paying MSRP and above.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

1997 Toyota Supra Turbo

MSRP: $39,900

Adjusted for Inflation: $63,687

2020 Supra Mk V Premium: $ 54,920

So adjusted for inflation the Supra is actually a better performing, lighter and cheaper car than the old Mk IV.

Good point

[oldman]

I read the article and thought of total rubbish... Twin turbo BMW 6 vs an NA pedestrial V6. complete toilet paper. Supra with 4 banger vs V6 1LE would be "fair". Waiting to see one in person, but so far the BMW looks good and the Supra is too ugly to own.

Value? Please show me an ugly car with collectability... and even if you could, who cares? It is ugly. Now I did own a AMC Gremlin X with the 304 V8 that qucikly went to a 390 with the 1970 dog leg port heads.... Wish I kept that, so ugly it was kinda cute, I painted it green all called it the "road toad"

[6sigma]

Hard to compare turbo with NA, even with same HP. Turbo makes much more torque much earlier. NA needs revs to make power. Best comparison would be hot laps on a tight track where you could keep the V6 at 5k plus and see how they do. I have a V6 manual and can say it is legitimately quick, but mostly 5k+ rpm.

[MiamiBlueCamaro]

Originally Posted by Genki

There is some serious sandbagging going on over at Toyota. I wonder if they're doing this in order to not overshadow the BMW. It'll be interesting to see the inevitable flood of dyno videos.

Take a look:

[Chadicus]

Originally Posted by MiamiBlueCamaro

Take a look:

Wow that's a lot of torque.

[bdavies11]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/auto...ims/ar-AABH6JG

Originally Posted by MiamiBlueCamaro

Take a look:

Ah, never mind. Beat me to it.

[GuywithL86]

Torque number has to be a misprint

There is no bmw twin turbo motor that even comes close to the disparity of torque and horsepower.

Unless they confused an 8.1 litre suburban with a supra, there is no way the torque is that much higher than the hp. It doesn’t make mathmatical sense

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by GuywithL86

Torque number has to be a misprint

There is no bmw twin turbo motor that even comes close to the disparity of torque and horsepower.

Unless they confused an 8.1 litre suburban with a supra, there is no way the torque is that much higher than the hp. It doesn’t make mathmatical sense

Further down in the article, they state the following:

"Reviewing the results, we think there's a chance the peak torque output may be slightly inflated, as the transmission's torque converter likely isn’t fully locked until higher in the rev range."

[RageWorx]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Further down in the article, they state the following:

"Reviewing the results, we think there's a chance the peak torque output may be slightly inflated, as the transmission's torque converter likely isn’t fully locked until higher in the rev range."

They only said "Slightly" inflated and I agree. However .... its still a pretty high/unexpected number trust me .

Nice numbers indeed ... this car will be a fun one to modify the tuners will be going crazy. Youll see the return of some OG JDM tuners (like HKS)coming back into the spotlight they faded from since the 90s JDM higher HP platforms died out/went collectible.

Very much looking forward to messing around with this car.


-Jon

[lawguy85]

Originally Posted by RageWorx

You'll see the return of some OG JDM tuners (like HKS)coming back into the spotlight they faded from since the 90s JDM higher HP platforms died out/went collectible

Disagree that HKS ever went away, but you’ll be glad to see they’ve already gotten their hands on a A90.

http://www.speedhunters.com/2019/05/...ied-a90-supra/

[Baldilocks01SS]

Originally Posted by lawguy85

https://bringatrailer.com/toyota/supra/

Compared to:

https://bringatrailer.com/chevrolet/camaro/

The market very strongly disagrees...

The market are idiots. They buy SUVs and are killing cars. You can post stats all day like that and it really doesn't matter. I'd never consider a Japanese brand over and American icon.

[GuywithL86]

Originally Posted by Baldilocks01SS

The market are idiots. They buy SUVs and are killing cars. You can post stats all day like that and it really doesn't matter. I'd never consider a Japanese brand over and American icon.

Yeah most car enthusiest just like awesome cars regardless of what brand they are. An awesome car is an awesome car.

I hated camaro’s until GM decided to spend a billion on the chassis r&d, now I pretty much ride the camaro’s nuts on every forum I’m in because the 6th gen is in awesome car.