Mustang GT PP1 vs Supra

USAFS197 · 09-25-2019, 02:27 PM

Now, I posted this video because both of these cars should be within the spectrum of potential competitors. But, there's a little bit of a treat towards the end when they start talking about lap times they've had there. I think you guys will like it.

Aragorn · 09-25-2019, 05:39 PM

Ss1le On top.
The toyo/ bmw is ok but expensive.

Matos1LE · 09-26-2019, 11:22 AM

The funny part is the SS1LE they use is on PS4S and is thus a tad slower than it would be stock.

JLz06 · 09-26-2019, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Matos1LE

The funny part is the SS1LE they use is on PS4S and is thus a tad slower than it would be stock.

I think it was actually on Michelin Cup 2. They did this because the PP2 mustang comes with cup2 so they wanted a comparison with equal tires.

Matos1LE · 09-27-2019, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JLz06

I think it was actually on Michelin Cup 2. They did this because the PP2 mustang comes with cup2 so they wanted a comparison with equal tires.

Interesting, just caught that in the end of the video. All the videos I saw from them with the SS1LE were on PS4. I got to check and see if they did a video for the track time with Cup2.

NeverDie · 09-27-2019, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Matos1LE

Interesting, just caught that in the end of the video. All the videos I saw from them with the SS1LE were on PS4. I got to check and see if they did a video for the track time with Cup2.

They did a Track Battle with 1LE on Cup 2 and GT PP2 on Cup 2

You won't be surprised at the outcome.

Matos1LE · 10-01-2019, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NeverDie

They did a Track Battle with 1LE on Cup 2 and GT PP2 on Cup 2

You won't be surprised at the outcome.

Yup, I went back and saw it. As expected, the 1LE prevails lol. They keep idiotically harping on the screen being tilted forward, but oh well... I suppose they need something to complain about.

Aragorn · 10-02-2019, 06:44 PM

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Yup, I went back and saw it. As expected, the 1LE prevails lol. They keep idiotically harping on the screen being tilted forward, but oh well... I suppose they need something to complain about.

Those are really good videos, but yes that screen complaint is something I don’t understand. I have not noticed it once.

TRZ06 · 10-02-2019, 06:59 PM

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Those are really good videos, but yes that screen complaint is something I don’t understand. I have not noticed it once.

Yeah, agreed. Sure, it's different from the rest of the industry, but doesn't mean it is any less effective. It actually cuts down on glare some.

It does catch the eye at first glance, but after about a week, it just blends in.

I don't agree with their interior comments either, for its price point the Camaro is not a bad place to spend time in. I can't say that about the Mustang's interior.

The driving dynamics in the SS 1LE are STELLAR and it hits several levels above its weight class.

The only cars that would get me out of mine are the ZL1 1LE (maybe, might be a bit much for daily use), GT3, GT3 RS, or the upcoming GT4 with PDK option. Oh and maybe a C8 GS in a few year depending on how things go with it.

RobbyBeefcake87 · 10-03-2019, 03:57 PM

They just ran the zl1 1le on that little track and it ran a 1:11 and change, just fractions of a second faster than the ss 1le. I'm sure in the bigger track the gap would be much larger but it's cool that the only thing that beat the ss 1le so far is a zl1 1le.

I'd like to see them run the ss 1le on the stocl goodyears. From what I've read from some guys who track their 1le's heavily is that the sc3s might perform just as good as the psc2s on the ss 1le.

Boost Creep · 10-03-2019, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Aragorn

Those are really good videos, but yes that screen complaint is something I don’t understand. I have not noticed it once.

The only issue I’ve noticed is, in mid day sun if there is something bright colored on the passenger seat you get glare on the screen, making it hard to see.
Having black seats with alcantara inserts in our cars makes that a non issue for the most part. In a car with white, red, or kalahari seats this angle might be annoying.

Matos1LE · 10-04-2019, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

They just ran the zl1 1le on that little track and it ran a 1:11 and change, just fractions of a second faster than the ss 1le. I'm sure in the bigger track the gap would be much larger but it's cool that the only thing that beat the ss 1le so far is a zl1 1le.

I'd like to see them run the ss 1le on the stocl goodyears. From what I've read from some guys who track their 1le's heavily is that the sc3s might perform just as good as the psc2s on the ss 1le.

I just saw the ZL1 1LE/Hellcat Redeye video last night. I thought the same thing with regard to track size, on a smaller course the ZL1 can't stretch its legs enough to make a bigger difference.

JLz06 · 10-04-2019, 10:31 AM

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I just saw the ZL1 1LE/Hellcat Redeye video last night. I thought the same thing with regard to track size, on a smaller course the ZL1 can't stretch its legs enough to make a bigger difference.

I think it may also have more to do with the cooler temps on that day vs the day the SS1LE was tested. ZL1 1LE has considerably more aggressive tires that need heat to perform well. Also, being setup with the stiffest setting for the shocks wouldn't help it with that track being as bumpy as it is. I would have to think if you took a ZL1 1LE with just a LT1 instead of an LT4 in it, on a track like PBIR or Homestead, it should still be a bit faster than a SS1LE.

evanescent03 · 10-15-2019, 10:13 AM

Both cars are great as street cars. The SS1LE gives so much more bang for the buck though. If I didn’t like/love doing track events the GTPP would be fine (except that old looking interior). The GT350 is a better comparison but the cost increase especially with markup is insane and makes it easily not worth it to someone who trades cars out as often as I do... 6-12mo last few years. If you were keeping it long term the markup would be slightly easier to stomach.

The Zupra is a really cool idea, seems fun, stylish and nice to be in. Same problem with the markup, these dealers are crazy and super annoying but I guess the consumers allow it by continuing to buy the cars. Also, sure wish they’d put a stick in the Supra since it’s supposed to be a driver’s car and most people taking this thing out on the weekends aren’t setting lap times on their local streets.

So please with my SS1LE for what I want out of it: great handling, great drama, quick lap times so I can hang with other fast cars on track, and a back seat I can haul the kids around in from time to time.

10-03-2019, 03:57 PM	#10
RobbyBeefcake87 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Tampa Florida Posts: 1,980	They just ran the zl1 1le on that little track and it ran a 1:11 and change, just fractions of a second faster than the ss 1le. I'm sure in the bigger track the gap would be much larger but it's cool that the only thing that beat the ss 1le so far is a zl1 1le. I'd like to see them run the ss 1le on the stocl goodyears. From what I've read from some guys who track their 1le's heavily is that the sc3s might perform just as good as the psc2s on the ss 1le. __________________ 2000 Miata - aventi storm wheels, roll bar. 2019 Mustang GT pp1 - svt pp2 wheels, mbrp cat back, sync 3 upgrade, p1x procharger + stg2 intercooler. 2018 Colorado zr2 - zr2 sport bar, showcase spare tire. 2018 Camaro SS 1LE - GM cai, black bowties, suede knee bolsters, 1le plate frame, black fuel door, dark tails + 3rd brake light, euro side markers + led's, GM all weather floor mats, velossatech big mouth, GM strut brace. 2017 Corvette Grandsport (sold) - untouched. 2006 GTO (sold) - iat relocation, air box mod, monero side marker lights.

09-25-2019, 05:39 PM	#2
Aragorn Account Suspended Drives: Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,538	Ss1le On top. The toyo/ bmw is ok but expensive.

09-26-2019, 11:22 AM	#3
Matos1LE Drives: SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Miami Posts: 321	The funny part is the SS1LE they use is on PS4S and is thus a tad slower than it would be stock.

10-15-2019, 10:13 AM	#14
evanescent03 Drives: '19 SS 1LE/'19 Rubicon/'20 AT4 Join Date: May 2015 Location: USA Posts: 505	Both cars are great as street cars. The SS1LE gives so much more bang for the buck though. If I didn’t like/love doing track events the GTPP would be fine (except that old looking interior). The GT350 is a better comparison but the cost increase especially with markup is insane and makes it easily not worth it to someone who trades cars out as often as I do... 6-12mo last few years. If you were keeping it long term the markup would be slightly easier to stomach. The Zupra is a really cool idea, seems fun, stylish and nice to be in. Same problem with the markup, these dealers are crazy and super annoying but I guess the consumers allow it by continuing to buy the cars. Also, sure wish they’d put a stick in the Supra since it’s supposed to be a driver’s car and most people taking this thing out on the weekends aren’t setting lap times on their local streets. So please with my SS1LE for what I want out of it: great handling, great drama, quick lap times so I can hang with other fast cars on track, and a back seat I can haul the kids around in from time to time.

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