09-24-2023, 10:12 AM | #1 |
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blown supercharger
Need some advice guys, Recently installed AR Headers on a 2021 zl1 1le.. The guy that installed it for me said i could drive it around without a tune. I did so for about a week and found the car wasn't running correct. When i took it to the track, guys there advised me not to run it like that. To get it a tune. So the original shop that did the headers, doesn't have a guy in house to do a tune. So i took it to another shop, the new shop dynoed it and tuned. Elated with a new tune i was a bit overzealous and somehow without even being at the track i blew the supercharger. Took it back to GM who advised the tune was too aggressive and likely blew the supercharger. The guy that did the tune said there was no way his tune blew the supercharger, that likely it was faulty, that these zl1s could take way more of a beating than what i put it through. Claimed i didn't even have it pullied down. That there was no way the tune did that.
First question, in all your experiences, who is lying? Stealership or the guy that did the tune? Second question has anyone had experience with rebuilt blowers? How long do they last? Can i abuse them? Third question, should i bite the bullet and just spend the money on a maggie 2650r? Andrew |
09-24-2023, 10:36 AM | #2 | |
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You can have it rebuilt…be interested to know exactly what is “blown” on the blower. Changing bearings is pretty common. If you go that route it’d be a good time to have Kong port it. Maggie 2650 and Whipple 3.0 are both a substantial improvement over the stock blower.
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09-24-2023, 10:42 AM | #3 |
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ty, and when you say improvement, do you just mean performance? or reliability?
And apparently it is a bearing that's gone.. Andrew you see my goal is to be on the track more than off! As there is a certain mustang owner that needs a trouncing! Last edited by Thestormoverkrynn; 09-25-2023 at 10:45 AM. |
09-25-2023, 02:33 PM | #4 | |
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Why does it have to be either party is lying? Sometimes people just make mistakes or are just flat out wrong. |
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09-25-2023, 02:51 PM | #5 |
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The 2650 and 3.0 are improvements in both airflow and cooling, by a massive margin.
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09-25-2023, 07:05 PM | #6 | |
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See how i did that? now if u respond u just look like a jerk... and if u don't u look like u got roasted, by a dumby who knows nothing about superchargers and can only just grasp the basics of the combustion engine, who's lost several 10mm sockets somewhere in the engine just trying to get the rain guard off and oh btw i also ruined a good pair of centre rings by trying to put 19s over top of them! so what's it gona be? Last edited by Thestormoverkrynn; 09-25-2023 at 08:13 PM. |
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09-25-2023, 08:32 PM | #7 |
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Probably a service writer/advisor, neither usually know much about how cars operate.
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09-25-2023, 10:49 PM | #8 |
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When a turbo or supercharger "blows", it sends chunks into the intake and into the engine, the engine is trashed in a millisecond. This is what happens when these things mechanically fail. It's rare, but just think about how fast the internals in these things spin. When they let go, it does a whole lot of damage and you know it.
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