Forward collision alert or PDR

zl1_fan · 07-14-2019, 08:04 AM

Seems the FCA (Forward Collision Alert) system is deleted with the PDR (Performance Data Recorder) option. I would like to order a 2020 ZL1 with the PDR option but I would also hate to give up FCA.

Not sure which one I'd rather have.

The PDR seems really cool, but I will not track the car much if ever, it will be more of a daily driver. Is PDR useful if I don't plan on tracking it? Better resale value down the road?

As you know the FCA is great for parking, pilling up to objects, other cars, etc., which is a feature I love in all my other vehicles.

arpad_m · 07-14-2019, 08:42 AM

For a daily driver I'd keep the FCA and forgo the PDR. If you ever want to create a racing video and/or analyze your driving, just use a dash cam or a GoPro, then annotate the footage with OBD data afterwards.

Even image quality and flexibility with the data overlay will be much better than with the PDR.

sujohn · 07-14-2019, 09:12 AM

One nice feature is that PDR gets you is video recording in valet mode. Depending on how often you let other folks drive your car, valet mode video can give you a little more peace of mind. I have to valet my car often, so for me PDR is very valuable.

Also, I agree that the video quality for track videos isn’t great, but PDR also gets you access to so much extra information like tire pressure/temperature and vehicle health info that you can see on your laptop.

1hprush · 07-14-2019, 10:33 AM

Don’t worry so much about which one has better resale. Consider which one you are going to get the most out of while owning your car. Besides, the FCA could save you bundles of $$ somewhere down the road.

zl1_fan · 07-14-2019, 12:43 PM

All good points, thanks for the input.

sengli · 07-14-2019, 04:19 PM

I dont track mine, never will. Both my cars have the PDR, since they were bought off the lot. Played with once on the way to the store. Unless your crazy about track use, no way would I pay the $1300 for it.

Alain · 07-14-2019, 04:59 PM

You don't need the PDR. I would get the collision feature instead.

My ZLE doesn't have the PDR and there hasn't been one time where I wish I had it in my year of ownership.

I will never EVER let anyone valet my car and like others have said, the aftermarket has much better video and information quality than the PDR.

RazzleDazzle · 07-14-2019, 08:16 PM

So, I just had to deal with the same conundrum last week before I bought my ZL1 on Friday;
Some people have said the FCA is faulty, annoyed them to the point of shutting it off, it effected their cruise control in negative ways, and if the windshield was dirty, rainy or frosted it did not work as advertised. That being said, I really wanted both (like really bad- I was seeing if there was a workaround) and was committed to a car with FCA and no PDR AND THEN, my local dealer found me a baller car and deal with PDR and more options for less money = sold!!!!

Also, another deal clincher for me was the realization that you can buy aftermarket FCA devices!! Does the same thing!
You can even get them integrated to apply braking while the Chevy version does not

And I’m the kind of person too who would always wonder / wish what if I had it- at least it’s there.

It def would not hurt resale either IMO

SFV1LE · 07-14-2019, 10:46 PM

PDR is great, while I'm at the track the last thing I want to deal with between sessions is starting aftermarket cameras, making sure they're mounted properly and battery is full, pointed in the right direction and not falling off. The PDR is so easy to start in the pits and gives me great video, lap times and all the session data I need. And I can review it immediately after a session on the nice sized screen in the car. I'm amazed by the lack of interest in PDR on this forum, for $1300 its a dream feature or track junkies like me IMO. FCA is something I like having in my daily, an MDX.

I also can't understand how someone who buys a ZL1 decides in advance they will never track it. Can you tell me why you don't want to? I'm interested.

Track it, you'll be glad you changed your mind :-) I wouldn't buy a car like this if I didn't track it, no opportunity to really experience the potential off track frequently enough to justify cost IMO. 2 days at Laguna Seca 2 weeks ago, and I spent yesterday morning doing drifts and doughnuts on the skidpad at Willow Springs (The Balcony). So much fun for $125.

HoldMyBeer · 07-15-2019, 12:06 AM

May be a stupid question, but when did forward collision alert become an option? Was this available from 2017 onward or later years?

TEST DRyVer · 07-15-2019, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

May be a stupid question, but when did forward collision alert become an option? Was this available from 2017 onward or later years?

I'm pretty sure this became standard on 19 ZL1's, unless you opt for PDR (as stated by Op). I have yet to track the car (I've had it for about a week), but I was looking specifically for a PDR car, and I've already used it for "spirited driving"

TEST DRyVer · 07-15-2019, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Alain

You don't need the PDR. I would get the collision feature instead.

My ZLE doesn't have the PDR and there hasn't been one time where I wish I had it in my year of ownership.

I will never EVER let anyone valet my car and like others have said, the aftermarket has much better video and information quality than the PDR.

Sorry buddy... Where my wife and I go out, the valets are used to parking Lambo's, Ferrari's, McLaren's, Porsche's, etc... Not sure why you wouldn't let anyone park your ZLE, but to each his or her own... If it saves my wife a walk that she doesn't want to do when we're out (not at a gym or outdoor venue), then I'm doing it... I can almost guarantee the Chevy dealership service tech does much worse with your car than a valet. Unless of course you're the type that does all of their own maintenance because they don't want others touching their car. And if you're "that guy," then you have more important issues to deal with...

Snakebt6 · 07-15-2019, 06:39 AM

Get what youll get the most benefit from.

Fast02Z06 · 07-15-2019, 06:58 AM

I personally hate all this technology and I'm a millennial. what did we do for oh so many years without fca and backup camera's????? I have fca on my Denali diesel but turn the damn thing off as I'm a good driver who pays attention to what is going on around me on the road. Sorry it's besides the point but I always thought that all this safety tech was a bunch of unnecessary crap to make us even worse drivers.

07-14-2019, 08:04 AM	#1
zl1_fan Drives: 2020 Camaro ZL1 (A10, crush) Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Virginia Posts: 108	Forward collision alert or PDR Seems the FCA (Forward Collision Alert) system is deleted with the PDR (Performance Data Recorder) option. I would like to order a 2020 ZL1 with the PDR option but I would also hate to give up FCA. Not sure which one I'd rather have. The PDR seems really cool, but I will not track the car much if ever, it will be more of a daily driver. Is PDR useful if I don't plan on tracking it? Better resale value down the road? As you know the FCA is great for parking, pilling up to objects, other cars, etc., which is a feature I love in all my other vehicles.

07-14-2019, 08:42 AM	#2
arpad_m Drives: 2018 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 11,594 View My Garage	For a daily driver I'd keep the FCA and forgo the PDR. If you ever want to create a racing video and/or analyze your driving, just use a dash cam or a GoPro, then annotate the footage with OBD data afterwards. Even image quality and flexibility with the data overlay will be much better than with the PDR. __________________ 2018 Camaro 2SS — G7E MX0 NPP F55 IO6 735 rwhp \| 665 rwtq Magnuson TVS 2300 80mm pulley \| Kooks 1 7/8" LT headers \| JRE smooth idle terminator cam \| LT4 FS & injectors \| TSP forged pistons & rods JMS PowerMAX \| DSX flex fuel kit \| Roto-Fab CAI \| Soler 95mm LT5 TB \| 1LE wheels \| 1LE brakes \| BMR rear cradle lockout \| JRE custom tune 1100 - 1/30/18 \| 2000 - 1/31/18 3000 - 2/06/18 TPW 2/26/18 3400 - 2/19/18 \| 3800 - 2/26/18 4300 - 2/27/18 \| 4B00 - 3/01/18 4200 - 3/05/18 \| 4800 - 3/14/18 5000 - 3/16/18 \| 6000 - 3/19/18

07-14-2019, 04:19 PM	#6
sengli Drives: 2015commemorative vert 2SS Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: northern Indiana Posts: 948	I dont track mine, never will. Both my cars have the PDR, since they were bought off the lot. Played with once on the way to the store. Unless your crazy about track use, no way would I pay the $1300 for it. __________________ 2018 ZL1 Bright Yellow, A10, PDR, sunroof, carbon hood, and dash- sold 2020 2SS A10 sunroof..shock and steel special-traded 2015 commemorative vert 2ss

07-14-2019, 04:59 PM	#7
Alain Drives: 2016 Challenger Hellcat, 2018 ZL1LE Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 3,003	You don't need the PDR. I would get the collision feature instead. My ZLE doesn't have the PDR and there hasn't been one time where I wish I had it in my year of ownership. I will never EVER let anyone valet my car and like others have said, the aftermarket has much better video and information quality than the PDR. __________________ 2016 Challenger Hellcat /B5 blue/Sepia interior/Brass Monkey Wheels/ 2018 ZL1 1LE/Red hot 2019 Shellby GT 350R/ Oxford white/ Matte Black Stripes/ Carbon Fiber Dash/ Electronics Package #413

07-15-2019, 12:06 AM	#10
HoldMyBeer Drives: 2017 ZL1(Silver) - A10, Stock Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: SoCal Posts: 65	May be a stupid question, but when did forward collision alert become an option? Was this available from 2017 onward or later years? __________________ 2017 ZL1(Silver) A10 Last edited by HoldMyBeer; 07-15-2019 at 12:09 AM. Reason: Spelling

07-14-2019, 09:12 AM	#3
sujohn Drives: '18 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Houston Posts: 26	One nice feature is that PDR gets you is video recording in valet mode. Depending on how often you let other folks drive your car, valet mode video can give you a little more peace of mind. I have to valet my car often, so for me PDR is very valuable. Also, I agree that the video quality for track videos isn’t great, but PDR also gets you access to so much extra information like tire pressure/temperature and vehicle health info that you can see on your laptop.

07-14-2019, 10:33 AM	#4
1hprush 2018 ZL1 1LE Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Westfield, IN Posts: 1,010	Don’t worry so much about which one has better resale. Consider which one you are going to get the most out of while owning your car. Besides, the FCA could save you bundles of $$ somewhere down the road.

07-14-2019, 12:43 PM	#5
zl1_fan Drives: 2020 Camaro ZL1 (A10, crush) Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Virginia Posts: 108	All good points, thanks for the input.

07-14-2019, 08:16 PM	#8
RazzleDazzle Drives: 2019 Camaro Zl1 A10 w/ Nav & PDR Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Bloomington, IN, USA, Planet Earth Posts: 126	So, I just had to deal with the same conundrum last week before I bought my ZL1 on Friday; Some people have said the FCA is faulty, annoyed them to the point of shutting it off, it effected their cruise control in negative ways, and if the windshield was dirty, rainy or frosted it did not work as advertised. That being said, I really wanted both (like really bad- I was seeing if there was a workaround) and was committed to a car with FCA and no PDR AND THEN, my local dealer found me a baller car and deal with PDR and more options for less money = sold!!!! Also, another deal clincher for me was the realization that you can buy aftermarket FCA devices!! Does the same thing! You can even get them integrated to apply braking while the Chevy version does not And I’m the kind of person too who would always wonder / wish what if I had it- at least it’s there. It def would not hurt resale either IMO

07-14-2019, 10:46 PM	#9
SFV1LE Drives: 2018 Hyper Blue ZL1 1LE Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: CA Posts: 1,360	PDR is great, while I'm at the track the last thing I want to deal with between sessions is starting aftermarket cameras, making sure they're mounted properly and battery is full, pointed in the right direction and not falling off. The PDR is so easy to start in the pits and gives me great video, lap times and all the session data I need. And I can review it immediately after a session on the nice sized screen in the car. I'm amazed by the lack of interest in PDR on this forum, for $1300 its a dream feature or track junkies like me IMO. FCA is something I like having in my daily, an MDX. I also can't understand how someone who buys a ZL1 decides in advance they will never track it. Can you tell me why you don't want to? I'm interested. Track it, you'll be glad you changed your mind :-) I wouldn't buy a car like this if I didn't track it, no opportunity to really experience the potential off track frequently enough to justify cost IMO. 2 days at Laguna Seca 2 weeks ago, and I spent yesterday morning doing drifts and doughnuts on the skidpad at Willow Springs (The Balcony). So much fun for $125.

07-15-2019, 06:39 AM	#13
Snakebt6 Drives: Rally Green 2020 ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Jacksonville Florida Posts: 402	Get what youll get the most benefit from.

07-15-2019, 06:58 AM	#14
Fast02Z06 Drives: 2018 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Houston tx Posts: 144	I personally hate all this technology and I'm a millennial. what did we do for oh so many years without fca and backup camera's????? I have fca on my Denali diesel but turn the damn thing off as I'm a good driver who pays attention to what is going on around me on the road. Sorry it's besides the point but I always thought that all this safety tech was a bunch of unnecessary crap to make us even worse drivers.

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