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Old 04-14-2023, 02:39 PM   #1
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GM Tech 2 Scan Tool for Brake Bleed

Has anybody found a tool that is able to run the ABS pump in order to fully flush/bleed the brake system like the GM Tech 2 tool? I'd like to avoid buying the GM tool if I can as they're pretty expensive.
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Old 04-14-2023, 07:44 PM   #2
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My fancy scan tool claims to support this, and indeed has the menus and action buttons. I personally haven't actually used its ABS bleed feature, so I can't vouch for it.
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Old 04-14-2023, 10:24 PM   #3
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Tech 2 does not work on 6th or even 5th gen Camaros. You need a aftermarket scan tool or a gm mdi and a subscription to gm gds if you want the official gm software.
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Old 04-15-2023, 06:53 AM   #4
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The Foxwell NT710 works for me as a bi-directional scan tool for many of the special service functions. Free Lifetime updates for the vehicles you buy the software for.

Approximately 1.1 litres of brake fluid (Motul RBF 660 FACTORY LINE) for a full flush:
  • Rear Driver - 200 ml
  • Rear Passenger - 140 ml
  • Front Driver - 110 ml
  • Front Passenger - 70 ml
  • Réservoir - 250 ml
  • Solenoid with both lines - 120 ml

Tools to pressure the system:

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Old 04-15-2023, 07:08 AM   #5
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Tech 2 does not work on 6th or even 5th gen Camaros. You need a aftermarket scan tool or a gm mdi and a subscription to gm gds if you want the official gm software.
Good to know.
There are Chinese clones available. Quick google search or youtube search will turn up comparisons and reviews. The subscription may be the kicker, but not always.
https://www.obd2tool.com/blog/differ...nd-clone-mdi2/
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Old 04-17-2023, 08:00 AM   #6
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Foxwell NT630 Plus does this as well at $128.
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Old 04-18-2023, 12:12 PM   #7
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Foxwell NT630 Plus does this as well at $128.
Thanks, I'll probably check this one out.
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Old 05-07-2023, 10:46 PM   #8
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Thanks, I'll probably check this one out.
Timely thread as I think I need an ABS bleed.

CHANGES MADE: Swapped pads to HPS 5.0 and full fluid flush. Must have let the fluid level drop too close to the MIN line.

SYMPTOMS: Softer pedal feel and pedal slowly sinks when sitting at idle. I first noticed this at a stop light when the car started rolling with foot on the brake at a constant pressure. However, braking performance is still good for street & AutoX.

ATTEMPTS: I re-bled the calipers which didn't help. From other threads, it sounds like I might have air in the ABS.
https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=553842

QUESTIONS:
1. Is the NT630 Plus confirmed to work for 6th gen? I also see an NT650 Elite which is classified as "Updated Version of NT630 Plus".

2. How much fluid is needed for only an ABS bleed (not a full flush)? I just did a full flush with 1.25L of SRF ($$) and would love it if the ABS bleed could be done with the 0.75L I have leftover.
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Old 05-08-2023, 07:14 AM   #9
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1. Is the NT630 Plus confirmed to work for 6th gen? I also see an NT650 Elite which is classified as "Updated Version of NT630 Plus".
Yes. There is a video of someone demonstrating it on a ZL1 and it works on my 2020 SS 1LE.

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2. How much fluid is needed for only an ABS bleed (not a full flush)? I just did a full flush with 1.25L of SRF ($$) and would love it if the ABS bleed could be done with the 0.75L I have leftover.
I would think you could do it without fully flushing the system again, and 3/4 of a bottle should be plenty for that.
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Old 05-08-2023, 12:46 PM   #10
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Yes. There is a video of someone demonstrating it on a ZL1 and it works on my 2020 SS 1LE.


I would think you could do it without fully flushing the system again, and 3/4 of a bottle should be plenty for that.
Ya I saw FasNuf's video (5th Gen) and it raised the questions. Thanks for validating it worked on yours. I just ordered the updated version directly from Foxwell site for $152 shipped.

FasNuf's video made it look like 40 sec of fluid flow per corner which could add up.

Did you also have a sinking pedal?
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Did you also have a sinking pedal?
No, but after Sam Strano had a brake failure during a track day, one of the issues raised was that the only proper brake flush procedure is one in which the ABS is also bled/flushed. I am sure that's not actually what caused the failure, but it just seems like good insurance to do it.
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Old 05-09-2023, 01:48 PM   #12
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No, but after Sam Strano had a brake failure during a track day, one of the issues raised was that the only proper brake flush procedure is one in which the ABS is also bled/flushed. I am sure that's not actually what caused the failure, but it just seems like good insurance to do it.
I heard about that when searching other threads on here. That's very unfortunate and surprising. The scare certainly hasn't slowed him down at AutoXing the Mustang.

And agree - when it comes to brakes, any extra insurance is wise.

Hoping the ABS bleed fixes the soft/sinking pedal. Will report back either way. In the meantime, no road course work.
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Old 05-10-2023, 07:25 AM   #13
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I highly recommend the LAUNCH Creader Elite scan tool. I used it to reset my magnetic ride and my idle control. It works great and has the ability to do the ABS pump procedure.
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Old 05-26-2023, 06:11 PM   #14
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Are we supposed to use more Motive tank pressure for ABS bleed than for a normal caliper only bleed?

Planning to bleed the ABS module with the new Foxwell + Motive this weekend.

15 psi worked fine for calipers only, but I saw something about 30 psi on Fas Nuf's 5th gen video. It was not clear if 30 psi was an ABS module requirement or a general 5th gen requirement.
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