What do I need for a reliable cam setup? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

houtx · 11-18-2016, 02:35 AM

The engine will be coming apart as I believe I have bad piston ring. Since it will be coming apart I plan on putting cam in. Now my question is to make a reliable cam setup what should I be upgrading? Car will be daily driven and currently has 70k miles. 2011 SS LS3 M6

Gunmetal Speedster · 11-18-2016, 02:42 AM

I asked this same question, and I was told all of this.

Website is currently down it seems, but when it gets fixed that link should take you to a camshaft kit.

houtx · 11-18-2016, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunmetal Speedster

I asked this same question, and I was told all of this.

Website is currently down it seems, but when it gets fixed that link should take you to a camshaft kit.

Thanks. Yes it looks down to me too. I will keep checking.

Sapper12b · 11-18-2016, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by houtx

The engine will be coming apart as I believe I have bad piston ring. Since it will be coming apart I plan on putting cam in. Now my question is to make a reliable cam setup what should I be upgrading? Car will be daily driven and currently has 70k miles. 2011 SS LS3 M6

I got my cam installed at 75k miles and this is what I used. Plus I had a new timing chain added along with a milling pump. Since you are in Houston we can meet up and talk, I can show you my build sheet.

http://www.briantooleyracing.com/bundle-cam-kit.html

Here is a link to my build thread, most of what I had installed is listed there.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=275478&page=7

2010reddevil · 11-18-2016, 03:51 AM

A good cam swap will cost you about 1800 in parts alone if you do it right. That is including a new cam. Like the old saying goes, cheap, fast and reliable. Pick 2 and go from there.

charles71 · 11-18-2016, 04:16 AM

Springs, lifters, seals, retainers/locks and pushrods dependent on cam size and just to be safe high volume oil pump.

camaro34 · 11-18-2016, 07:09 AM

Things to replace: Lifters, springs, retainers, locks, and seals. Things to check: push rod length (lifters should have about 3/4 turn preload), piston to valve (about .080 intake and .110 minimum exhaust) and the oil pump (check for signs of wear). If the pump is good it does not need to be replaced, if the pump is bad I would replace it with a factory LSA pump. Most pump failures are because of three reasons. First the o ring in the pickup tube is not installed correctly and does not seal. Second the pump is not clearenced correctly. Third there is a failure else where in the engine and the pump picks up the debris. We have built several LS engines and the only time we run a milling pump is on an engine that makes 1000+ hp.

Hope this helps and good luck

2010_camaro · 11-18-2016, 06:46 PM

Vengeance racing has complete cam kits. They are around $1300
Includes all items listed below

Vengeance Racing Custom Camshaft of Your Choice

Vengeance Racing 5/16" Hardened Pushrods

Vengeance Racing .660" Lift Dual Valve Spring Kit

C5R Timing Chain

Melling Hi Volume Oil Pump

Comp Cams Trunion Upgrade

GM Front Cover Seal

GM Front Cover Gasket

GM Waterpump Gasket Set

GM Crank Bolt

ARP Cam Bolts

LS7 Timing Gear

LS2 Dogbone Timing Damper

houtx · 11-18-2016, 09:03 PM

Question
How do i know which length of rod to get?

houtx · 11-19-2016, 12:19 AM

KATECH C5-R TIMING CHAIN FOR GEN III/IV LSX HME-G68V-2

MELLING STANDARD VOLUME, HIGH PRESSURE OIL PUMP MEL-10295

CHEVROLET PERFORMANCE LS2 LS3 LS7 TIMING CHAIN DAMPENER 12588670

1 x BTR LS3 N/A STAGE IV 3 BOLT CAM $0.00
1 x .660" LIFT PLATINUM SPRING KIT WITH TITANIUM RETAINERS $50.00
1 x BTR 7.350" LONG, 5/16" DIAMETER, .080" WALL CHROMOLY ONE PIECE PUSHRODS; SET OF 16 $0.00

What do you guys think I am missing?
Is the spring good or should I stick with steel?
Are the pushrods correct size?

jc615 · 11-19-2016, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by houtx

Question
How do i know which length of rod to get?

Measure if you want to do it properly. Most will come with a standard size that should work if you havnt milled heads or anything extreme

11-18-2016, 02:35 AM	#1
houtx Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Houston Posts: 62	What do I need for a reliable cam setup? The engine will be coming apart as I believe I have bad piston ring. Since it will be coming apart I plan on putting cam in. Now my question is to make a reliable cam setup what should I be upgrading? Car will be daily driven and currently has 70k miles. 2011 SS LS3 M6

11-18-2016, 02:42 AM	#2
Gunmetal Speedster Drives: Savitar; The 500rwhp N/A Monster! Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Middletown, Ohio Posts: 2,914 View My Garage	I asked this same question, and I was told all of this. Website is currently down it seems, but when it gets fixed that link should take you to a camshaft kit. __________________ **SOLD504HP/433**TQ \| Night Fury cammed • Cold Air Inductions intake • Bo White ported TB • Speed Engineering 1 7/8 longtubes • NPP catback • QTP low profile cutouts • Powerbond 25% UDP • 3.73 gears • JRE scoop • ZL1 grille • R1 Concepts drilled/slotted rotors • built/tuned by Weapon X Motorsports Instagram \| YouTube \| Build Thread

11-18-2016, 03:51 AM	#5
2010reddevil Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Victory Red 6M Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gulf Coast, TX Posts: 1,424	A good cam swap will cost you about 1800 in parts alone if you do it right. That is including a new cam. Like the old saying goes, cheap, fast and reliable. Pick 2 and go from there. __________________ 2011 2SS 6A Red Jewel Metallic, Vararam Tune CAI, Magnaflow 3" Competition c/b, Speed Engineering 1-7/8 LT's, Circle D 5C, M/T 275/40R20 S/S, HPTuners tune by Ryan@GPI 12.3 @ 112 ACM as of 12/22/19 Gone on 12/28/19 R I P 2010 2SS 6M Victory Red/Black (old ride) CAI intake, Speed Engineering 1 7/8" LT's, X4 base tune, Flowmaster Outlaw axle-back. 12.6 @ 115 SAR as of 9/19/15 Gone but never forgotten.

11-18-2016, 04:16 AM	#6
charles71 Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 110 View My Garage	Springs, lifters, seals, retainers/locks and pushrods dependent on cam size and just to be safe high volume oil pump. __________________ Livernois Stage II Heads & Cam, LS7 Lifters, Ported Intake & Throttle Body, Rotofab CAI, BBK High Flow Fuel Rail @ Guage, Eaton Tru Trac Posi with 3.91 gears, 1000 HP Axels, Kooks Long tubes & full Corsa Exhaust, GM Hurst Short Throw Shifter, Mcleod RXT Twin Disc, Vitesse Throttle Controller, 1.5" Lowering Springs, Strut Tower Brace, SLP 25% Underdrive Pulley, Apex reservoir relocation kit and air scoop.

11-18-2016, 06:46 PM	#8
2010_camaro Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 2,238 View My Garage	Vengeance racing has complete cam kits. They are around $1300 Includes all items listed below Vengeance Racing Custom Camshaft of Your Choice Vengeance Racing 5/16" Hardened Pushrods Vengeance Racing .660" Lift Dual Valve Spring Kit C5R Timing Chain Melling Hi Volume Oil Pump Comp Cams Trunion Upgrade GM Front Cover Seal GM Front Cover Gasket GM Waterpump Gasket Set GM Crank Bolt ARP Cam Bolts LS7 Timing Gear LS2 Dogbone Timing Damper __________________ MODS 6.0 forged iron block, TH400, B&M shifter, DSS axles & driveshaft, Viking / BMR suspension, Full custom fuel system with cell, Twin 76mm teriyaki tornados on 24lbs. https://www.instagram.com/whoopa_ss/

11-18-2016, 07:09 AM	#7
camaro34 Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Boynton Beach FL Posts: 124	Things to replace: Lifters, springs, retainers, locks, and seals. Things to check: push rod length (lifters should have about 3/4 turn preload), piston to valve (about .080 intake and .110 minimum exhaust) and the oil pump (check for signs of wear). If the pump is good it does not need to be replaced, if the pump is bad I would replace it with a factory LSA pump. Most pump failures are because of three reasons. First the o ring in the pickup tube is not installed correctly and does not seal. Second the pump is not clearenced correctly. Third there is a failure else where in the engine and the pump picks up the debris. We have built several LS engines and the only time we run a milling pump is on an engine that makes 1000+ hp. Hope this helps and good luck

11-18-2016, 09:03 PM	#9
houtx Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Houston Posts: 62	Question How do i know which length of rod to get?

11-19-2016, 12:19 AM	#10
houtx Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Houston Posts: 62	KATECH C5-R TIMING CHAIN FOR GEN III/IV LSX HME-G68V-2 MELLING STANDARD VOLUME, HIGH PRESSURE OIL PUMP MEL-10295 CHEVROLET PERFORMANCE LS2 LS3 LS7 TIMING CHAIN DAMPENER 12588670 1 x BTR LS3 N/A STAGE IV 3 BOLT CAM $0.00 1 x .660" LIFT PLATINUM SPRING KIT WITH TITANIUM RETAINERS $50.00 1 x BTR 7.350" LONG, 5/16" DIAMETER, .080" WALL CHROMOLY ONE PIECE PUSHRODS; SET OF 16 $0.00 What do you guys think I am missing? Is the spring good or should I stick with steel? Are the pushrods correct size?