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PalmerGA · 12-27-2013, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nyrfan

That is far from "unleashing the beast"

Sent from my AGM, 2SS/RS

I'm just saying that AFM is what holds the L99 back, regardless of the situation (cruising, hard starts, drags, etc.). It isn't based on anything logical, IMO. You can do a hard start in a L99 but the AFM will still kick in at some point - killing the engine's full potential.

PalmerGA · 12-27-2013, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nyrfan

That is far from "unleashes the beast". It provides no performance gains at all, unlike a tune which helps to unleash the L99.

Sent from my AGM, 2SS/RS

Obviously, a full tune-out of AFM and establishing new shift points is best, performance-wise, but just the elimination of AFM by the Range device is a HUGE improvement. You know that, nyrfan.

PalmerGA · 12-27-2013, 04:07 PM

I just feel that if L99 owners never had to experience AFM, they wouldn't be nearly as critical of the autos. Mine is a whole new animal since the Range device came along (and I think you would agree).

nyrfan · 12-27-2013, 04:12 PM

I do agree with you that the range device is a great option.

Sent from my AGM, 2SS/RS

woodside783 · 12-27-2013, 04:14 PM

Had a l99 took it out and put in a ls3 love it

PalmerGA · 12-27-2013, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by woodside783

Had a l99 took it out and put in a ls3 love it

I would prefer the extra HP and torque of a LS3... I just don't want to push in a clutch pedal anymore. LOVE the L99 (with AFM delete).

knitetrain05 · 12-27-2013, 04:25 PM

You bought the wrong car from the get go. Period.

PalmerGA · 12-27-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by knitetrain05

You bought the wrong car from the get go. Period.

No. Bought exactly what I wanted and am very happy with it. Period.

Synyster · 12-27-2013, 04:29 PM

Why are y'all getting so butt hurt about the OP? He wasn't being hostile about the L99... he just gave his ACTUAL comparison, which is true btw. The L99 is SLOW without a tune and bolt ons.

woodside783 · 12-27-2013, 04:38 PM

I am still a auto just hope the fixed the amf on the new c7 vett

Shortbus · 12-27-2013, 05:07 PM

It used to be that you had to have a manual for it to be a 'real' sports car. Times have changed though. Look at Porsche and their auto (PDK). The thing can shift faster than a human can shift their manual. There's even rumors of them getting away from manual transmissions.
What you have to do is decide on what feels right for you and buy it. Forget the mine vs. yours mentality.

ChrisBlair · 12-27-2013, 05:08 PM

Butt dynos?

cd3neil19 · 12-27-2013, 05:11 PM

NOBODY CARES ANYMORE!

banter · 12-27-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Shortbus

It used to be that you had to have a manual for it to be a 'real' sports car. Times have changed though. Look at Porsche and their auto (PDK). The thing can shift faster than a human can shift their manual. There's even rumors of them getting away from manual transmissions.
What you have to do is decide on what feels right for you and buy it. Forget the mine vs. yours mentality.

Faster doesn't mean better. Look at the GT-R, it's ridiculously fast but for the money I'd take a CTS-V or C7 with a manual trans and use the leftovers on mods. Hell, look at the camaro vs the current mustang. It's faster but I would argue until I'm blue in the face if someone tried to tell me it was better. I know manual transmissions are going away, but it will be a sad, sad day regardless. But my point is, faster =/= better.

12-27-2013, 04:07 PM	#31
PalmerGA Drives: 2013 SIM 1SS/RS L99 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Southwest GA Posts: 8,755 View My Garage	I just feel that if L99 owners never had to experience AFM, they wouldn't be nearly as critical of the autos. Mine is a whole new animal since the Range device came along (and I think you would agree). __________________ 2013 1SS/RS Coupe L99, Stainless Power Works LT Headers, SCT X4 Custom Tune from RDP, CAI Inc. Air Intake w/ Apex Scoop, VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body, Solo Axle-Back Exhaust w/ J-pipes, Apex Catch Can, Husky Splash Guards, Heritage Grille, 3D Carbon Rear Spoiler, Oracle Chrome Turn Signal Bulbs, GM Reverse Light Trim Billets, Gorilla Black Locking Lugs, Emblem Pros Retro SS Badges/Custom Retro SS Kickplates/Under-hood Bowtie, 35% window Tint, Nitto Motivo Tires (6-8-18)

12-27-2013, 04:12 PM	#32
nyrfan Let's go Rangers! Drives: 13' AGM 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 10,742 View My Garage	I do agree with you that the range device is a great option. Sent from my AGM, 2SS/RS __________________ Soprano 4/1/00-6/14/11, Gone but NEVER forgotten! FSP tuned: 377/389

12-27-2013, 04:14 PM	#33
woodside783 Casey Woodside Drives: a very fun car Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Tn Posts: 1,906	Had a l99 took it out and put in a ls3 love it __________________ Instagram @caseywoodside http://youtu.be/CSc9aPh_X_w

12-27-2013, 04:38 PM	#38
woodside783 Casey Woodside Drives: a very fun car Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Tn Posts: 1,906	I am still a auto just hope the fixed the amf on the new c7 vett __________________ Instagram @caseywoodside http://youtu.be/CSc9aPh_X_w

12-27-2013, 05:07 PM	#39
Shortbus Drives: 88 IROC Z28 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 126	It used to be that you had to have a manual for it to be a 'real' sports car. Times have changed though. Look at Porsche and their auto (PDK). The thing can shift faster than a human can shift their manual. There's even rumors of them getting away from manual transmissions. What you have to do is decide on what feels right for you and buy it. Forget the mine vs. yours mentality. __________________ LB9 Ohv V8 220 @ 4400 290 @ 3200 TPI 9.3:1 305/5.0 IZ (w/man trans)

12-27-2013, 04:25 PM	#35
knitetrain05 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro SS 45th Anniversary Edi Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 523 View My Garage	You bought the wrong car from the get go. Period.

12-27-2013, 04:29 PM	#37
Synyster Drives: 2006 F150 Lariat Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 1,665	Why are y'all getting so butt hurt about the OP? He wasn't being hostile about the L99... he just gave his ACTUAL comparison, which is true btw. The L99 is SLOW without a tune and bolt ons.

12-27-2013, 05:08 PM	#40
ChrisBlair Buick 455 Fan Drives: 1970 Buick, 2012 1SS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Boston MA Posts: 5,957	Butt dynos? __________________

12-27-2013, 05:11 PM	#41
cd3neil19 Drives: '10 2SS/RS & '14 Range Rover Sport Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Columbia, Missouri/Chicago, IL Posts: 195	NOBODY CARES ANYMORE! __________________ Silver 2010 L99 SS/RS Mods: Magnaflow Competition Series Exhaust, 20% Window Tint, Blacked out LED tail lights, OEM Color matched mudflaps.