07-31-2012, 09:17 AM | #85 | |
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07-31-2012, 09:34 AM | #86 | |
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Also the reason me and JMAN are pissed is because the dealers DON'T KNOW when they will be able to fix it. That's the problem. Also yes the cars are built by humans who have good and bad days. But that's why you have a quality control group. Their whole job is to catch the flaws before they become public.
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07-31-2012, 09:36 AM | #87 |
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OK - guys - again - deep breath.
Someone lives in Vancouver and is 99% sure of something - Perhaps you are not. We don't ever want one of our cars to come back for warranty - for any number of reasons - but the NUMBER ONE reason is this: It's inconvenient for you, the customer. As to someone making the comment that GM Performance Cars are not up to par with BMW and Audi - show me the hard data. If you cannot, then please don't make such a statement. I don't say this to belittle you, but you might be interested to know that those of us within the auto industry DO talk to each other - and suppliers talk to each other. Every manufacturer today has issues - and some of them are quite serious -- (...you may be surprised to know that one of our Chevy Dealers had to go to court to get his Bentley bought back for bad paint.........who knew?) I'm going to say it again: G-Oilman - we are going to replace your insert.
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07-31-2012, 09:45 AM | #88 | |
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Thank you for the continued communication. However, after the initial complaint I just continued to discuss the issue. I made no further complaints. Until I went to the dealer. Let me be clear. I am very happy at the service I received from the dealer and the service manager. I am also quite happy with the customer service reps handling of my issue. My only issue now is that no one can tell JMAN and myself whn we can expect a repair. I have no question that GM/Chevy will make me whole again. It's the lack of expected completion of the repair that is frustrating me. Otherwise I'm right as rain. Again, thank you for the continued communication.
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07-31-2012, 09:53 AM | #89 | |
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07-31-2012, 10:11 AM | #90 |
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My 2012 insert looks fine. Thanks to fbodfather and all the workers at the plant for making my car. Only problem I have is that I have made a couple scratches in the paint and they really show up on a black car. But this car is and will be driven and driven hard. Just like it should be. Cannot wait for breakin to be done, seeing triple digits and redlines at the track.
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07-31-2012, 10:31 AM | #91 |
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With all the on and off constraints on all the different inserts I knew it wouldn't get replaced quick. The only thing I worry about is having the exact same thing happen to the new one when I eventually get it.
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07-31-2012, 10:40 AM | #92 |
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Really appreciate this ZL 1 forum. It keeps us all up to date on potential problems and cool upgrades. It also adds leverage to our requests for resolution with the General. Checked my 2012 #799 and all is well with the exposed CF hood insert.
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07-31-2012, 06:44 PM | #93 | |
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No, that is not what happens. The ECF insert and the painted insert are made in different ways. The ECF insert is MUCH harder to produce. That is why, even after painting it, the painted insert costs less than the ECF insert. There is no clear coat on an ECF insert. What you see on your car is what it looks like when it pops out of the mold. When a "painted" insert pops out of the mold, it pretty much looks like a piece of fiberglass. The two inserst are made in different ways and use different molds. For what they are charging for the ECF insert, they must be throwing away 60 - 70% of thier inserts. |
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07-31-2012, 11:21 PM | #95 | |
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and not to call Scott out for his response because Scott is the man . But any magazine review of the ZL1 (or even the more expensive CORVETTE for that matter) has commented once or twice that the interior components, paint, etc. on American performance cars aren't as "sharp" as those on Audi, BMW, and Porsche. It's just a fact--no two ways about it. The Viper was ridiculed for years for it's interior and SRT execs knew this and have listened in an effort to gain more customers in their target audience by supposedly refinining the interior of the 2013 Viper; in fact I read in a recent Road & Track issue that the interior on the 2013 Viper would rival that of Bentley (maybe an exaggeration) but it's nice to know American Performance cars are starting to match their foreign counterparts in the "quality" of materials department. My comment was simply calling out this "obvious" fact, some may think it's subjective, but I'm sure 99% of ZL1 owners (if they are being 100% honest with themselves and not brand loyalist) will agree that the interior, body panels & paint on our cars is not quite as polished or refined as those of the foreign (GERMAN) competition. But again who cares right? After all we didn't buy our ZL1's for the nicest paint, we bought them for cheap performance, if you realize that simple fact, you will not be disappointed and frustrated whenever notice a blemish on your paint or a flaw in the consistency on the painted plastic piece surrounding your shifter console (as I have). Yes, Scott I know that even Bentley screws up occasionally on paint or QC of components--everybody does--but even if a perfectly manufactured CAMARO was produced and a perfectly manufactured M3 was produced the "quality" of materials used on both products would be visually apparent and that was the only point I was simply trying to make along with the fact that an automaker has to choose between all out performance or luxury or find a compromise of both when producing a "sports car" in today's market. QC issues happen to EVERYBODY (some companies more than others of course) but the "quality" of materials is an entirely different subject so hopefully those that read my original post weren't confusing the two. Cosmo, no offense bro but Obviously you are some die-hard guy with a mullet :flag2: and I have offended you , for that I DO NOT apologize because as I said before I am a "CAR ENTHUSIAST" first and will always call out negative things that I see from whatever car manufacturer (even if I support them at the end of the day and continue buying their products). We are all entitled to voice our opinions here and are encouraged too as that is what makes C5 such a great community; but in doing so we should all remember that at the end of the day we all love Camaros which is why we joined this forum in the 1st place--unless we are trolls (which I obviously am not as seen by my post count). My post was in no way an attack on GM because I have owned two Corvettes (including the 1st year C6 model) and bought a 2012 ZL1 knowing up front that Chevy produces "bang for buck" which implies that the paint, body panels, and interior pieces may not be as "nice" as those of our foreign competition. If I may just offer a small piece of advice buddy: you should read a post in it's entirety a few times before making responses like YOU did...c'mon bro...get it together sorry for the long post but I had to clarify because I don't like people attacking my character, even if it is just the Internet...anyway hopefully we understand each other better now...it's all good here brotha Last edited by IcePick06; 08-01-2012 at 12:23 AM. |
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08-01-2012, 12:31 PM | #96 | |
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Rodney King is yelling from his grave.......can't we all just get along.......
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08-01-2012, 01:04 PM | #98 |
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My point exactly. All the negative crap on this site gets to me. Problems? Sure. Share them. Get solutions. To put down this or that is simply NEGATIVE. To call someone who doesn't even drink "drunk" or cast some aspersions on a stereotypical "haircut" worn by someone less educated or fortunate is "wrong" So is pointing out someones misspelling as I have shown. Negative. I simply wanted to point out the ludicrous nature of personal attacks. I can read an opinion of anyone who disagrees with me. Couldn't resist this fellow attempting to use his "superior" intellect to show how smart he is. I apologise to all the readers for my negative post.
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