Octane Booster Question - Page 2

IneedAZ · 09-27-2020, 07:01 PM

Boostane runs sales all the time. I just got another 5gal can as they had a 25% off sale for Labor day.

Joshinator99 · 09-27-2020, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 2004YZFR1

Is that 4 OZ per a full tank?

Yeah. I think based on a 19 gal gas tank, it was just a little over 3 oz to bring it from 93 to 96 octane. Super cheap money to get that level of gain IMO, as you’d get 10 doses from a regular 32 oz can of Boostane. But they have a free app that lets you quickly determine the dosage.

2004YZFR1 · 09-27-2020, 07:07 PM

Thank you

JSH · 09-28-2020, 07:21 AM

I would never run octane booster in any engine, certainly not this engine

L99BEN · 09-28-2020, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JSH

I would never run octane booster in any engine, certainly not this engine

I agree. Products like Boostane and Torco could cause issues.
https://www.hellcat.org/threads/boos...icture.210835/
https://www.google.com/search?ei=V9x...4dUDCA0&uact=5

I'd mix in unleaded 100 octane with 91/93 to minimize timing pull and optimize stock performance, if anything.

arpad_m · 09-28-2020, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by L99BEN

I agree. Products like Boostane and Torco could cause issues.
https://www.hellcat.org/threads/boos...icture.210835/
https://www.google.com/search?ei=V9x...4dUDCA0&uact=5

I'd mix in unleaded 100 octane with 91/93 to minimize timing pull and optimize stock performance, if anything.

What issues specifically? I read through the forum thread you linked and checked the google search results, nobody complains about anything except the orange discoloration of the soot that would be present anyway, except it'd be gray or black. Conversely, several people complained that Sunoco race fuel didn't eliminate knock on their setups, while Boostane did.

*radz28* · 09-28-2020, 08:29 AM

From what I understand, any additive, like these mentioned, has to have MMT to be effective. And for those that do have this metal, there is a good chance at emissions components (e.g. sensors and cats' and spark plugs) will have shorter lives because of the deposits it leaves on them. If these aren't a concern for your car, then no biggie. And while, apparently, there is no solid evidence (according to some branding of these additives) that these parts will definitely have reduced lives, I think it's something the user should know about. That soot is result of these kinds of products.

Boostane, if I recall, claims some fuel-conditioning-type properties, which I like, because I don't drive my car all the time. I've used Racegas in another car, and it seems okay (which I don't say like that because I didn't use it to race, rather to test my timing advance/retard). I have a can of Racegas and a couple of Boostane that I will probably continuously use just to keep safe when I'm done with my tuning. It seems like a worthwhile alternative to keep things safe, IMO.

KingLT1 · 09-28-2020, 08:47 AM

Torco isn't a octane booster...it's a race fuel concentrate. It's only going to cause a potential issue with sensors if you ran it everyday. It's not economical to run everyday as is MS109 or any race fuel for that matter. chances are anybody looking at this option is only going to use it on Track days so it won't be a issue. I have and know others who have run Torco for years with no issues.

driven2exceSS · 09-28-2020, 08:52 AM

Would a car running a flex fuel tune running straight E85 (obvious pump variant %), benefit from mixing with 100 octane unleaded race fuel or race fuel concentrate? And, for those running Cat-less, would 100 octane leaded be better than 100 octane un-leaded race fuel?

95 imp · 09-28-2020, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by driven2exceSS

Would a car running a flex fuel tune running straight E85 (obvious pump variant %), benefit from mixing with 100 octane unleaded race fuel or race fuel concentrate?

It depends on the alcohol content whether you gain or lose w/100. Higher alcohol content=higher octane.

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Originally Posted by driven2exceSS

And, for those running Cat-less, would 100 octane leaded be better than 100 octane un-leaded race fuel?

You can run leaded, but it will ruin the O2 sensors eventually.

I mix 1 gal Xylene per 10 gal of gasoline. Xylene is a component of gasoline.

That will pull your base octane up by 2 points. (91-->93 or 93-->95)

Joshinator99 · 09-28-2020, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L99BEN

I agree. Products like Boostane and Torco could cause issues.
https://www.hellcat.org/threads/boos...icture.210835/
https://www.google.com/search?ei=V9x...4dUDCA0&uact=5

I'd mix in unleaded 100 octane with 91/93 to minimize timing pull and optimize stock performance, if anything.

Not sure if you read what you posted... that guy on the Hellcat forum dumped in the entire 32 oz bottle lol. You only need 3 oz on an entire tank of fuel to get from 93 to 96...

driven2exceSS · 09-28-2020, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 95 imp

It depends on the alcohol content whether you gain or lose w/100. Higher alcohol content=higher octane.

So say a round number of 70% E85?

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You can run leaded, but it will ruin the O2 sensors eventually.

Is there any benefit to leaded verses the un-leaded 100 octane race fuel to risk the damage to sensors?

Joshinator99 · 09-28-2020, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by driven2exceSS

Would a car running a flex fuel tune running straight E85 (obvious pump variant %), benefit from mixing with 100 octane unleaded race fuel or race fuel concentrate? And, for those running Cat-less, would 100 octane leaded be better than 100 octane un-leaded race fuel?

No, E has a higher octane rating than 100 pump gas. And cleaner, and cheaper to boot.

KingLT1 · 09-28-2020, 11:48 AM

Octane chart for E85 and other percentages.

09-27-2020, 07:01 PM	#15
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09-28-2020, 07:21 AM	#18
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09-28-2020, 08:29 AM	#21
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,192 View My Garage	From what I understand, any additive, like these mentioned, has to have MMT to be effective. And for those that do have this metal, there is a good chance at emissions components (e.g. sensors and cats' and spark plugs) will have shorter lives because of the deposits it leaves on them. If these aren't a concern for your car, then no biggie. And while, apparently, there is no solid evidence (according to some branding of these additives) that these parts will definitely have reduced lives, I think it's something the user should know about. That soot is result of these kinds of products. Boostane, if I recall, claims some fuel-conditioning-type properties, which I like, because I don't drive my car all the time. I've used Racegas in another car, and it seems okay (which I don't say like that because I didn't use it to race, rather to test my timing advance/retard). I have a can of Racegas and a couple of Boostane that I will probably continuously use just to keep safe when I'm done with my tuning. It seems like a worthwhile alternative to keep things safe, IMO. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

09-28-2020, 08:47 AM	#22
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,797	Torco isn't a octane booster...it's a race fuel concentrate. It's only going to cause a potential issue with sensors if you ran it everyday. It's not economical to run everyday as is MS109 or any race fuel for that matter. chances are anybody looking at this option is only going to use it on Track days so it won't be a issue. I have and know others who have run Torco for years with no issues. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

09-28-2020, 08:52 AM	#23
driven2exceSS Drives: 2016 2SS BLK A8 Vert Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: MA Posts: 1,029	Would a car running a flex fuel tune running straight E85 (obvious pump variant %), benefit from mixing with 100 octane unleaded race fuel or race fuel concentrate? And, for those running Cat-less, would 100 octane leaded be better than 100 octane un-leaded race fuel? __________________ NPP, MRC, Tinted side & rear reflectors, OEM ZL1 Rockers / 3rd Brake / Darken tail lights, OEM Blk rear splash guards, Satin hood wrap, Fuse pull, Sound tube delete, Cat delete, Ported 95 TB, Ported MSD IM, Dry RotoFab, ARH 1 7/8 headers, E85, "Performance Dyno" Tune, BMR "pieces", "Track" alignment, Hawk DCT-70/70's w/SRF, Goodridge lines, Ti shims, Red powdered calipers, 18" APEX SM-10's w/ Pirelli DH's, FE4 Vert swaybars, Brake cooling ducts, ATI 10% UD, Vorshlag camber plates, OEM 1LE Splitter w/APR Ext., Velossa BIG MOUTH Ram Air, CF QA1, ZLE brakes(F)

09-27-2020, 07:07 PM	#17
2004YZFR1 Drives: 2020 Chevrolet Camaro Coupe 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Nevada Posts: 296 View My Garage	Thank you

09-28-2020, 11:48 AM	#28
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,797	Octane chart for E85 and other percentages. Attached Images __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

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