[GearheadSS]

Originally Posted by Vtor_ZL1

ZL1 1LE has run flats.. they go flat, you run for help

Underrated post.

[angryBits]

Originally Posted by 590_The_Judge

OP, i think youll just have to bite the bullet and take the wifes car for family stuff. I did notice an improvement with a tire change at 40 miles (Michelin Pilot Super Sports), but the wife still doesnt really like it. We have just the two cars, and i cant see buying another just to haul the family around when we have hers (2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee w/ 5.7 hemi). My little guy loves the camaro.

My eldest recently bought a 2018 SS 1LE, and i really cant stand that car (not talking about LT1 vs LT4, just driving/suspension impressions). Everything is just a bit squishy. Whether its steering, suspension, initial turn in... its all missing the crsipness the ZL1 1LE has. I was worried when i ordered the car since i was unable to test drive (dealer wasnt even letting people test the normal ZL1), but i know now i would never be happy with the MR setup.

Just not my thing. To each their own.

I agree we'll likely mostly take her car -- its just a bit of a bummer since I traded my Z06 to gain a backseat so the family could come along.

As for the lack of crispness for the SS 1LE, I've not driven one, however I do know the regular Camaro SS was the 2016 Motortrend car of the year and they all said it was great. I imagine you must like a really stiff ride I like my cars stiff too. My only complaint with the ZL1 1LE is when there are the big bumps that lift you out of your seat. On my daily commute, there is 2 of these bumps on the way home and its on the freeway so I can't really slow down and I can't really dodge it as its across the entire freeway. So twice a day my behind catches air Small price to pay really

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by angryBits

I agree we'll likely mostly take her car -- its just a bit of a bummer since I traded my Z06 to gain a backseat so the family could come along.

As for the lack of crispness for the SS 1LE, I've not driven one, however I do know the regular Camaro SS was the 2016 Motortrend car of the year and they all said it was great. I imagine you must like a really stiff ride I like my cars stiff too. My only complaint with the ZL1 1LE is when there are the big bumps that lift you out of your seat. On my daily commute, there is 2 of these bumps on the way home and its on the freeway so I can't really slow down and I can't really dodge it as its across the entire freeway. So twice a day my behind catches air Small price to pay really

This is exactly how my previous M3 behaved with Ohlin coilovers. The top end of the rebound stroke was BRUTAL and not only did it lift you out of your seat, it also engaged the traction control system.

My SS 1LE with just the ZL1 1LE solid rear cradle bushings is soooo much more capable than my M3 was. The MRC is pretty awesome and is WAY smoother than the Ohlins.

The only place that the Ohlins shined over the MRC is how quickly they recover in the triple digit speed stuff. I would imagine that the DSSV's have that same quickness to them as my Ohlins did when compared to MRC.

[Xlr8ion]

Leave her home

[camareoZ]

Remove wife / insert Girlfriend problem solved!

[shaftwhy]

Originally Posted by angryBits

I agree we'll likely mostly take her car -- its just a bit of a bummer since I traded my Z06 to gain a backseat so the family could come along.

As for the lack of crispness for the SS 1LE, I've not driven one, however I do know the regular Camaro SS was the 2016 Motortrend car of the year and they all said it was great. I imagine you must like a really stiff ride I like my cars stiff too. My only complaint with the ZL1 1LE is when there are the big bumps that lift you out of your seat. On my daily commute, there is 2 of these bumps on the way home and its on the freeway so I can't really slow down and I can't really dodge it as its across the entire freeway. So twice a day my behind catches air Small price to pay really

Lock yourself into the seat like you are on a race track, then your behind will stay where they are.

[DangerZL1]

Originally Posted by camareoZ

Remove wife / insert Girlfriend problem solved!

Until the papers are served

[angryBits]

Originally Posted by shaftwhy

Lock yourself into the seat like you are on a race track, then your behind will stay where they are.

I'm considering some harness options

[DaveC113]

Originally Posted by angryBits

As for the lack of crispness for the SS 1LE, I've not driven one, however I do know the regular Camaro SS was the 2016 Motortrend car of the year and they all said it was great. I imagine you must like a really stiff ride I like my cars stiff too. My only complaint with the ZL1 1LE is when there are the big bumps that lift you out of your seat. On my daily commute, there is 2 of these bumps on the way home and its on the freeway so I can't really slow down and I can't really dodge it as its across the entire freeway. So twice a day my behind catches air Small price to pay really

SS 1LE is pretty smooth and well isolated from the drivetrain and suspension. It's not a problem most of the time, but cornering over uneven pavement is not great as you can literally feel the rubber in the rear end. OTOH, you can put it in tour mode and it's a comfortable highway cruiser that can get near 30 mpg. It's a well done compromise but the rear end is too soft.

IMO, the SS, including 1LE version, is more a GT car, the ZLE is the sports car version. SS 1LE is like a cheaper Aston Vantage.

My last car was a STi, the 1LE rides much smoother and tour mode takes the edge off of impacts much better.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by DaveC113

SS 1LE is pretty smooth and well isolated from the drivetrain and suspension. It's not a problem most of the time, but cornering over uneven pavement is not great as you can literally feel the rubber in the rear end. OTOH, you can put it in tour mode and it's a comfortable highway cruiser that can get near 30 mpg. It's a well done compromise but the rear end is too soft.

IMO, the SS, including 1LE version, is more a GT car, the ZLE is the sports car version. SS 1LE is like a cheaper Aston Vantage.

My last car was a STi, the 1LE rides much smoother and tour mode takes the edge off of impacts much better.

HOWEVER,

if you do what I did and add the ZL1 1LE rear solid cradle bushings, then you get the best of both worlds. I can tell you having made that swap, it makes a HUGE difference, but still keeps it daily driver friendly.

[DaveC113]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

HOWEVER,

if you do what I did and add the ZL1 1LE rear solid cradle bushings, then you get the best of both worlds. I can tell you having made that swap, it makes a HUGE difference, but still keeps it daily driver friendly.

I was checking it out while changing diff fluid, now I see how it's a 10 hour job. Tons of crap to take apart. Ugh...

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by DaveC113

I was checking it out while changing diff fluid, now I see how it's a 10 hour job. Tons of crap to take apart. Ugh...

Yeah, but SOOOOOO worth it.

It really makes it a different car in the corners and in quick transitions. It's laser sharp and you do not need to make minute steering corrections mid-corner now due to rear-end sway. Transition maneuvers are now very controlled. I can take a 90 to 100MPH sweeper now one handled with no drama.

If you are not a track rat and NEED the ZL1 1LE, it is a great , much cheaper option to get the SS 1LE and do the swap. It is the perfect daily driver with still stellar track capabilities.

Now, if it was only a weekend car and I had a daily commuter, I would say ZL1 1LE without a second thought, but for dual duty, it's hard to beat.

[DOHCVTEC]

KW V3s..!! I havent had them on a Camaro but did have them on a Mustang.. they are incredible! Its my understanding that someone else on this forum has them on a ZL1 seems to like them a lot.. Ride is insanely compliant, smooth, handling is amazing.. this is coming from a company that takes several seconds off 911s on track

[angryBits]

Originally Posted by DaveC113

My last car was a STi, the 1LE rides much smoother and tour mode takes the edge off of impacts much better.

I had a 2011 STI hatchback and I hated it. No guts until 4k rpm. AWD system was excellent though.

I've not driven a SS 1LE but I'm guessing the MagRide is very similar to the MagRide in my 2015 ZL1, 2017 Grand Sport and 2017 Z06 -- I really really appreciated the MagRide. IMO the 2017 Z06 w/ Z07 package was the best all around, it was comfortable but stiff enough to be an excellent handling car. I'd guess the Grand Sport w/ Z07 package would have been even better but my Grand Sport didn't have the Z07 package.

The ZL1 1LE is an equally well handling car but to achieve that level it sacraficed comfort.