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Old 05-06-2020, 11:39 PM   #1
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Exterior mods debate

I’m making this thread after looking into tire stickers (raised white lettering mainly) as I think it looks cool and I debate doing it myself. Seems the consensus within the Camaro community is its something not to do. Now I whole heartedly agree with the sentiment of “your car, your choice” but the best argument against it was the comparison to spinner wheels and how certain fads come and go. I admit, 15 years ago I thought having 26 inch spinners on your Escalade was cool, when I see them now I laugh.

The stance I’m about to take on a different exterior mod choice, will undoubtedly bring strong disagreement from other owners but I feel the need to express my opinion as it relates to the pet peeves we all have when it comes to certain mod choices.

IN MY OPINION...lol
1. I hate seeing SS owners change over to the ZL1 front end. Yes I love the look of the ZL1 grill, but I find swapping it on to your SS a form of “up-badging”
2. Side window louvres, that’s mustang tat
3. Under lighting (low glows) tisk tisk.

Obviously I respect and admire anybody’s customizations because we all have different likes and making your car your own is awesome. I mainly brought this up to stir the pot in a sense and have a thread for light hearted debates on what any of us find distasteful or uncool.

Let the arguments begin!
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Old 05-07-2020, 12:03 AM   #2
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I agree with you 100% on this. I CANNOT stand the ZL1 bumper conversions... something about it just pisses me off to kingdom come!
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Old 05-07-2020, 06:13 AM   #3
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To each his own but I wont stick a bunch of ZL1 stuff on my SS but that is me. Just Like the Subaru guys taking a WRX and plastering it with STI badges and other stuff trying to make it something it is not.
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Old 05-07-2020, 06:18 AM   #4
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I dont mind the SS to ZL1 bumper conversion look. To each their own. I plan on adding the 1LE chin spoiler on my LS, rear diffuser to quad tip, and side skirts. That's all.
Better than the civic guys slapping that Ebay type R badge on a base model.
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Old 05-07-2020, 07:03 AM   #5
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Yes I agree too that a ZL1 front end conversion on a SS or the other Camaro models is wrong and in my thinking the person should have bought a ZL1 if they like the look that much. If you buy the OEM parts to convert the look it is a lot of money including paint and if a professional body shop does the work. The louvers are a no go for me too and of course the under car lighting looks ricer. The Donk look doesn’t belong on a Camaro either in my opinion but that’s why we live in the USA so we can make choices and to live basically free from government control.��
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Old 05-07-2020, 07:18 AM   #6
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I’ve come to the conclusion that the “Fast and Furious” generation are now old enough and far enough along in their careers to be able to afford modern day muscle (read: pony) cars. With that, their taste in exterior mods are completely different than some of us older guys. Wide body kits, canards, and ZLE spoilers are tacky to me, but I wouldn’t put anyone down for doing any of those mods. I just won’t do it myself.
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Old 05-07-2020, 07:33 AM   #7
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I put a ZL1 bumper on mine (Not the AA one, because it looks... off to me. Too pointy or something) because I like the look of it better than the SS. Same as I did with my Cobra (I put a Roush stage 3 bumper on it instead of keeping the stock cobra one because I liked the way it looked better.) That's all. I didn't put ZL1 badges or wheels or anything else ZL1 related, although I would have if I liked the way it looked better than what I have. I still have SS badges on it, one on the rear bumper and I put 1 on each front fender in place of the red, white and blue ones. So, I personally don't think of it as a form of "up-badging", but a form of your personality, style and individuality showing through and putting what you want on your car. I also have over 1000HP and spent half the $ than if I would have bought a ZL1 with only 650.

We all have different tastes, thank God, otherwise the Camaro community would be very boring in my opinion. I say do what you want if you're paying or have paid for it. to all for whatever you do or don't do.
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Old 05-07-2020, 07:36 AM   #8
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ZL1 front on an ss reminds me of the escalade front end on a gmc sierra. eehhh no thx fam
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Old 05-07-2020, 07:44 AM   #9
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If you can tell there's an underlying reason for the aesthetic modification, then I'm ok with it. If at a glance it just looks like they made the change for the sake of the change, then it really just depends on the mod itself.

The ZL1 front bumper I don't see as a positive change for any models below the ZL1 itself, unless the driver is specifically utilizing the front canards on the ZL1 1LE package for his road course setup, then cool. It's like the ZR1 front bumper conversions for Corvette's, too. It allows for much more air to reach the engine bay and allows for more cooling. It's about 50/50 in the community as far as who gets it for aesthetic reasons and who doesn't.

Someone is bound to chime in and say that it doesn't matter what someone does to their car because it's their money, etc., etc. But I do think that there are modifications that certainly reflect upon the community. Gaudy modifications or blatant upbadging just discredits the brand. Look at how most of us view imports in general and the modifications commonly associated with them.
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Old 05-07-2020, 07:47 AM   #10
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As long as you don’t badge it as something it’s not then I have no issues with the zl1 front end conversion. But that wicker bill spoiler ? Man don’t get me started on that that nascar looking, silly air brake , but that’s just me , lol. Do whatever you want to your car, you’re the one paying for it.
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Old 05-07-2020, 08:03 AM   #11
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I did the ZL1 spoiler and wheels, only did the wheels because I bent one of my HRE wheels but after I put them on I found I liked them better, please go easy on me for what I think is a good look
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Old 05-07-2020, 08:31 AM   #12
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If you can tell there's an underlying reason for the aesthetic modification, then I'm ok with it. If at a glance it just looks like they made the change for the sake of the change, then it really just depends on the mod itself.

The ZL1 front bumper I don't see as a positive change for any models below the ZL1 itself, unless the driver is specifically utilizing the front canards on the ZL1 1LE package for his road course setup, then cool. It's like the ZR1 front bumper conversions for Corvette's, too. It allows for much more air to reach the engine bay and allows for more cooling. It's about 50/50 in the community as far as who gets it for aesthetic reasons and who doesn't.

Someone is bound to chime in and say that it doesn't matter what someone does to their car because it's their money, etc., etc. But I do think that there are modifications that certainly reflect upon the community. Gaudy modifications or blatant upbadging just discredits the brand. Look at how most of us view imports in general and the modifications commonly associated with them.
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Old 05-07-2020, 09:46 AM   #13
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I put some VTECH decals on my ride, hell yeah brother
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Old 05-07-2020, 10:42 AM   #14
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The SS front bumper (16-18) looks better than the ZL1, IMO.

As for raised white lettering, I like this myself. However, the only way to do this, is to use appropriate markers and paint the original lettering on the tires. Beyond that, it looks to cheesy for my tastes. And with 35s, there's not a lot of room to play with.
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