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Old 07-31-2017, 09:31 AM   #29
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I think what makes a Z/28 so good has to go in the next 1, and some if not most will not like it,car needs to be stripped down, with a high RPM motor, looking for 620+hp active wing this time, more aro, and bring the car down to 3400lb, hope it comes out as a small 500 car per year run only.
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Old 07-31-2017, 02:57 PM   #30
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The GT350R has a lot of stuff added to it and only stickers for mid 60s. Unless Ford is losing their ass on each one, I don't see why the Camaro would be vastly more expensive.
Yeah but I imagine the Z as described by others is starting with the ZL1 1LE, then adding even more go fast stuff to it, and taking out stuff. I'd imagine a car like that touch 80 or 90K pretty easily.....is there a market for a stripped Camaro in that price range?

I just think a future Z would be better suited as an inbetween SS 1LE and ZL1 car
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it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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Old 07-31-2017, 05:57 PM   #31
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The engine would likely already exist for a Corvette model, so it couldn't cost any more than the LT4. As for the weight reduction, they said that they didn't take the backseats out of the ZL1 1LE because they wanted to retain practicality.
I took the back seat out of my Gen5 ZL1 and it only weighed about 12 pounds, it is a piece of firm plastic with lightweight foam and leather on it. Then the car was so loud I had to put back a 5 pound sheet of aluminum with sound deadening to hear myself think.... There is really nothing gained by removing the seat....unless you like it really loud in the car.
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Old 07-31-2017, 06:58 PM   #32
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I'm guessing the Z28 will be a big block 427. So I hope
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Old 07-31-2017, 07:22 PM   #33
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Yeah but I imagine the Z as described by others is starting with the ZL1 1LE, then adding even more go fast stuff to it, and taking out stuff. I'd imagine a car like that touch 80 or 90K pretty easily.....is there a market for a stripped Camaro in that price range?

I just think a future Z would be better suited as an inbetween SS 1LE and ZL1 car
The ZL1 1LE stickers for so much because it is an option on the ZL1. The Z/28 doesn't have to be more.

The Z/28 can start with the SS 1LE, upgrade the brakes, tires, suspension, engine and aero. It could land around the ZL1 but offer a different experience.

Either way, it would be tough to outperform the ZL1 1LE. That bar is set pretty high.
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Old 07-31-2017, 07:45 PM   #34
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Also could get whatever this thing has.


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Old 07-31-2017, 08:18 PM   #35
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Also could get whatever this thing has.


That could be a place for new, higher output LTx n/a engine.
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Old 08-01-2017, 02:05 PM   #36
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The ZL1 1LE stickers for so much because it is an option on the ZL1. The Z/28 doesn't have to be more.

The Z/28 can start with the SS 1LE, upgrade the brakes, tires, suspension, engine and aero. It could land around the ZL1 but offer a different experience.

Either way, it would be tough to outperform the ZL1 1LE. That bar is set pretty high.
That's what I am trying to say, for those that think the car needs to outperform the ZL1 1LE, that's going to be one expensive car
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Old 08-01-2017, 02:13 PM   #37
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The ZL1 1LE stickers for so much because it is an option on the ZL1. The Z/28 doesn't have to be more.

The Z/28 can start with the SS 1LE, upgrade the brakes, tires, suspension, engine and aero. It could land around the ZL1 but offer a different experience.

Either way, it would be tough to outperform the ZL1 1LE. That bar is set pretty high.
That is the right idea IMO. Max effort NA track car that doesn't necessarily need to be faster than the ZL1-1LE. Better yet would be to also offer the upgraded engine as standard on the SS-1LE (I'd buy one).
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Old 08-01-2017, 02:17 PM   #38
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The 5.2 is an entirely unique engine, which would be a huge cost for the GT350 alone. The front radiator support is unique. The front fenders and hood are unique.

There really isn't much difference between the GT350R and Z/28, except the Z used an old engine.
I'd rather have the LS7 than the Voodoo. Vibration and no low end torque are negatives I wouldn't want to live with.

A 7.0L LT engine would be a dream even if not faster than the ZL1-1LE.
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Old 08-01-2017, 04:21 PM   #39
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I'm guessing the Z28 will be a big block 427. So I hope
Big blocks have been dead for a long time now. I really doubt they would bring them back in the current automotive climate.

It might just be a 428 small block like the LS7 (that they just love to call a 427 for marketing purposes).

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Old 08-01-2017, 05:41 PM   #40
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A GM buddy of mine in powertrain has mentioned it twice.

Along with a new V8, those could be mutually exclusive though.
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Old 08-01-2017, 06:27 PM   #41
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I might be the minority here but I kinda hope the Z/28 doesn't out perform the ZL1 1LE. If they take an SS 1LE as the starting point and just upgrade all the important performance aspects of it (Including a 550-600hp N/A 427) I would be happy! I don't think it needs to out perform the ZL1 1LE, as long as it's true to the "Z/28 Heritage" it will be perfect in my book. And if it doesn't out perform the ZL1 1LE it definitely won't cost more!
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Old 08-01-2017, 07:15 PM   #42
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Z28 LT5 DOHC V8 is a real possibilty. 700+hp
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