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Damn, congrats! Now that you have fuel system, how far will the blower/engine combo go? I'm not as familiar with the whipple's power potential or your bottom end setup. With port and potential to turn it up you're going to flying this year!
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The Whipple has more left in it than my shortblock does lol… I’m on GPI lower compression drop-in pistons and rods. GPI said they could take a pounding and they weren’t kidding! But I’m probably already asking my shortblock for too much, I wasn’t planning on turning up the power a bunch. I’m sick of mixing fuel and I need more octane IMO. So that’s the main driver of this move.
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Mike is the BOMB. He's helped me A LOT, and I couldn't appreciate him more. He's awesome.
The thing I don't like a lot is how tight DSX controls (apparently) their ATLAS. I think I remember you stating you keep in the loop, including calibrating. I won't suggest I'm an expert or anything, and have spoken directly with DSX on some stuff, but there's a lot they hold to their chest. I don't know if it's because it's so early in the release, but if anyone has curiosity (like I do) about how stuff is working in the background (not that I could, necessarily, understand it anyways), it's a little tough to let go of some control of the tuning part. I'd never try to give the impression I should/would/do have competence in calibrating. I'm just saying that it seems they have a lot of restrictions that have to align with the product right now. Having said that - I would make clear that I have every confidence in the product. I wouldn't suggest it won't do the job excellent. I like that it uses the same architecture as GM does. There is sense in keeping tight control over all of it, including the kinds of injectors you can use (from a calibration standpoint, especially). With what I HAVE used, from DSX, I have every confidence it's going to be great for you (not that you needed mine/more approval) because those guys do everything great. A billet fuel pump module bucket?! LOL. That's awesome! Are you going to see how far you can push the short block, or upgrade eventually? Wouldn't the biggest concern be the thrust bearing be the biggest issue for the likely power your combination could make? It seems like you're already past what more than a few say an LT4 is safe to, lol. I haven't noticed many push too much past your power without aftermarket reciprocating parts. I really have to work on cleaning up my engine bay closer to your standard. Yours makes me envious and motivates me to work harder at it. Many KUDOS friend!!!
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I haven’t fully decided to run the Atlas but was leaning that way. I love the TooHighPSI guys and their products but do not like the idea of hacking up the torque model to use the Reflex. ![]()
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You don't drive it enough for mixing ethanol to be a problem...first world problems
![]() I read a complaint yesterday where it read like the DSX is locked to 180 EOI for target activation. Meaning you can't adjust when it activates. It's going to come on soon as EOI drops below 180 so you can't really max DI, even though some claim that is max. I agree that is where efficiency peaks, but I haven't seen any negative effects spraying 20 degrees past that. Car doesn't seem to slow down any. I am just a hack so pay me no attention. Either way I don't really see it being an issue. Yeah, you might be down a little horsepower vs being able to max DI...big deal. Maybe if you class raced and needed every last HP.
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Meanwhile I carefully popped the bricks out of the lid and am bringing those off to my buddy’s shop for ultrasonic cleaning. My runners are packed up and getting shipped out to Katech today too. ![]()
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September 16th blog: "... So... what's actually triggering the controller? I suspect this is where a lot of people are going to throw a fit due to being fixed in their old ways. If you examine the log and pay attention to injection duration, you'll see it caps out at 180°. This value is user adjustable (and has been since tuning became available), and through a lot of testing on our end (and abuse of our poor test car), we found 180° was the middle value of the bell curve in terms of power production. When applying the patch, this value will default to 180°. Ultimately, you can change it to whatever you want, and you may actually need to based on cam specs..." Maybe I recall incorrectly, but I think he (or someone near his level) said you'd want to adjust that to keep IPW at a good limit by RPM, so if you were looking to keep IPWs around 5ms at 6500, you might want to move EOI limits around to until you found that IPW. I don't know if you have to work with him to set that (like adding the patch), or if that's something you can do independently (which is what I feel like he said you could do). My point is, he's left some pretty good information in those blogs. They are very interesting, and some of it goes against the grain of what, it seems like, a lot of tuners have been doing for a long time for the Gen Vs. He leaves a lot of juicy little tidbits when he wants to, lol.
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Well said on both posts @Radz28!
![]() After watching my buddy nuke his NGK 6510s (and his forged pistons lol) in his Coyote at our last track day, I decided to go with a plug better designed for forced induction applications and a colder heat range. So I ordered up a set (plus a spare, of course).
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