[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by oldman

Do you or did you DD a Challenger or do you just have to be "right". I DD almost 100,000 miles in two Challengers. The Challenger is easier to see out of than the Camaro PERIOD. So if the Challenger "still has horrible blind spots", then the Camaro is that much worst. For me, I thought the Challenger was easy to get used to. I think the 6th gen Camaro needs a bit more attention mainly due to the smallish side mirrors, which evidently are too small to pass safety in Europe.

But please, since you seem to know it all, how many miles have you spent in a Challenger?

Although you didn't quote anyone I do have a hunch on who you're talking to. Some people just have no other purpose than to troll and argue. You're better off just ignoring them.

To address your comment, you are absolutely correct. Which is why I recently made a comment about my first impressions on the 6th Gen Camaro. I had criticisms and was disappointed with GM at first. However all that changed when I heard about the ZL1. I never had that impression or had to come around to the Challenger. In fact a lot of us gave the 6th Gen a pass because we got a great deal, or the performance was unbelievable, or we just love Camaros. I was one of those. However there is no denying that the Challenger has much greater visibility. Except for one particular spot when look out towards the back. However that particular spot is shared across all three of the Pony Cars and it is just as bad in all of them. Those of us who have both or have owned both or have experience in both know better whereas some who don't know WTF they're talking about think foolishly.

[oldman]

[Lafourche1]

Originally Posted by NW-99SS

Some of you have never driven a long-nose Pete with the seat on the floor and a 52' enclosed trailer behind you...blind spots, bwahahaha!!!

The Mack wasn't great either. Having 500 bags of bulk cement in the bulk truck was always a treat. I did like the RTO 9513, though. Who needs a clutch?

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by Lafourche1

The Mack wasn't great either. Having 500 bags of bulk cement in the bulk truck was always a treat. I did like the RTO 9513, though. Who needs a clutch?

Reminds me of the Mack Tandem Grain trucks on the feedlot I worked on. 5 + 2 dual shifters, obviously huge grain box, and of course, clutch is only for Low or Reverse

[TheRealJA105]

Originally Posted by oldman

Do you or did you DD a Challenger or do you just have to be "right". I DD almost 100,000 miles in two Challengers. The Challenger is easier to see out of than the Camaro PERIOD. So if the Challenger "still has horrible blind spots", then the Camaro is that much worst. For me, I thought the Challenger was easy to get used to. I think the 6th gen Camaro needs a bit more attention mainly due to the smallish side mirrors, which evidently are too small to pass safety in Europe.
But please, since you seem to know it all, how many miles have you spent in a Challenger?

I haven't DDed any of my cars since my 95 Integra in college. DDs have been GMC Sierras since then. Cars are the toys. If either of you would care to read anything about people you ridicule and accuse of things you would see exactly how many miles I have driven in a Challenger and how totally wrong your made up theories about me are.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Although you didn't quote anyone I do have a hunch on who you're talking to. Some people just have no other purpose than to troll and argue. You're better off just ignoring them.

To address your comment, you are absolutely correct. Which is why I recently made a comment about my first impressions on the 6th Gen Camaro. I had criticisms and was disappointed with GM at first. However all that changed when I heard about the ZL1. I never had that impression or had to come around to the Challenger. In fact a lot of us gave the 6th Gen a pass because we got a great deal, or the performance was unbelievable, or we just love Camaros. I was one of those. However there is no denying that the Challenger has much greater visibility. Except for one particular spot when look out towards the back. However that particular spot is shared across all three of the Pony Cars and it is just as bad in all of them. Those of us who have both or have owned both or have experience in both know better whereas some who don't know WTF they're talking about think foolishly.

It's so funny you blocked me. I quoted you to totally agree with you and you don't see it and now you are reiterating exactly the same thing over again and I also totally agree with you. But you and oldman are now buddies and you and him think you agree with each other but you literally don't.

Originally Posted by oldman

YOU LITERALLY DON'T AGREE WITH HIM AND YOU POST WORD!!!!! DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT EMOJI MEANS????

[oldman]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

I haven't DDed any of my cars since my 95 Integra in college. DDs have been GMC Sierras since then. Cars are the toys. If either of you would care to read anything about people you ridicule and accuse of things you would see exactly how many miles I have driven in a Challenger and how totally wrong your made-up theories about me are.

I'm just pointing out that we are just typing on the internet about our SUBJECTIVE beliefs. In this case how easy is it to see out of a Challenger Vs a 6th gen. You have NO experience in this at all NONE, NADA, NOTHING, yet you insist that you are correct on completely subjective experience. You make-up the quazi fictional others who may or may not have real-world experience with both cars write XYZ and that makes it gospel truth. I, on the other hand, have direct experience and I have many friends and family with both cars, actually, there are more Mustangs in the family. I speak in generalities from a subjective point of view, you speak in specific points of view and pretend that it is objective. BTW I did not "ridicule" you, I did not even directly quote you, but I am indeed pointing out that you seem to have a very limited ability to appreciate any opinion that maybe even remotely different than yours.

I've deen on the Challenger forum for what 11 years? I don't remember any post about "terrible" visibility.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

YOU LITERALLY DON'T AGREE WITH HIM AND YOU POST WORD!!!!! DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT EMOJI MEANS????

Don't know, I'm old, hench my tag-name.

Please explain the proper use of the emoji so that I may sin no longer

[NW-99SS]

The great thing about different people and vehicles is...different opinions, preferences, and experiences to share and compare.

I have a Mongoose 1963 Corvette Grand Sport. It's loud, rough, vibrates everything, hot inside, has no A/C or radio, and is purpose built for road course racing. I still take it out on the street once or twice a year. Lots of people don't like it - I couldn't care less. But for those who appreciate what the car represents, we often get into some good discussions about the history of the Grand Sports, and where I would like to see my car in the next few years.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by NW-99SS

The great thing about different people and vehicles is...different opinions, preferences, and experiences to share and compare.

I have a Mongoose 1963 Corvette Grand Sport. It's loud, rough, vibrates everything, hot inside, has no A/C or radio, and is purpose built for road course racing. I still take it out on the street once or twice a year. Lots of people don't like it - I couldn't care less. But for those who appreciate what the car represents, we often get into some good discussions about the history of the Grand Sports, and where I would like to see my car in the next few years.

You can't mention a car like that and not post pics!

[oldman]

Originally Posted by NW-99SS

The great thing about different people and vehicles is...different opinions, preferences, and experiences to share and compare.

I have a Mongoose 1963 Corvette Grand Sport. It's loud, rough, vibrates everything, hot inside, has no A/C or radio, and is purpose built for road course racing. I still take it out on the street once or twice a year. Lots of people don't like it - I couldn't care less. But for those who appreciate what the car represents, we often get into some good discussions about the history of the Grand Sports, and where I would like to see my car in the next few years.

Come pick me up

[NW-99SS]

Here you go!

[Laststandard]

Holy shit that thing is amazing! I would love to have one of those and drive it on the street (and track too, of course.)

[Scottyz]

**** that’s sweet dude
Love those old Grand Sports

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by Laststandard

Holy shit that thing is amazing! I would love to have one of those and drive it on the street (and track too, of course.)

Originally Posted by Scottyz

**** that’s sweet dude
Love those old Grand Sports

Thank you both, appreciate it. Has been my dream Corvette since I was just a little guy.

Licensed by GM, 2600lbs wet, ZZ502, 4 speed manual. Built Dana 44.

Goal:

H/C and ITB LS7 w/dry sump, TR6060 <2500lbs