06-20-2022, 11:45 AM | #15 | |
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Another way to think of it is "external" fit boots use their OD to fit to a caliper and "internal" fit boots use their ID to fit to a caliper... The O-ring is a replacement for the rubber bushing that is used OEM for the rear caliper's internal transfer of fluid. See the bottom of the page: https://racingbrake.com/camaro-11/ |
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06-20-2022, 11:59 AM | #16 | |
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06-20-2022, 03:26 PM | #17 |
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About the only time I see rear boots need replacing is with some combo of very aggressive pads and a lot of PTM intervention on track. I have never needed to even change rear dust boots on any of my cars.
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06-21-2022, 12:20 PM | #18 |
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Thank you both. This thread is a gold mine of information for me! FYI my rears are fine but I'm doing an SS line install and was considering just to rebuild the rear since I'll have the caliper disconnected anyway. But after reading this probably not.
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06-21-2022, 03:12 PM | #19 | |
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Enjoy the car as much as possible and don’t over worry about all this - but I’d keep a log of track time, what pads, tires, and when you do brake maintenance, either predictive or reactive. |
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07-15-2022, 03:31 PM | #20 |
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Ok guys need your help since this is my first time doing this and I'm pretty sure that I will need new dust boots for my car. My car has about 5k miles on it and 9 hard track days. I think I'm just going to be buying new hi-temp dust boots and changing them out.
Here are my dumb newbie questions: 1. Do I need to remove the pistons to replace the dust boot? 2. What dust boots should i purchase (with part #'s if able) I know the stock part # is 19207044 3. Anything else anyone would suggest let me know 4. For question #2 above, I believe this is the correct kit for replacing all seals and dust boots, but what are the actual dust boot sizes? I'm just looking to replace the boots right now but maybe I should replace the seals as well https://racingbrake.com/bc-61bs/ ? Here are pictures of my brakes. Last edited by Christian1LE; 07-15-2022 at 03:49 PM. |
07-16-2022, 05:43 AM | #21 |
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[QUOTE=Christian1LE;11200796]Ok guys need your help since this is my first time doing this and I'm pretty sure that I will need new dust boots for my car. My car has about 5k miles on it and 9 hard track days. I think I'm just going to be buying new hi-temp dust boots and changing them out.
Here are my dumb newbie questions: 1. Do I need to remove the pistons to replace the dust boot? 2. What dust boots should i purchase (with part #'s if able) I know the stock part # is 19207044 3. Anything else anyone would suggest let me know 4. For question #2 above, I believe this is the correct kit for replacing all seals and dust boots, but what are the actual dust boot sizes? I'm just looking to replace the boots right now but maybe I should replace the seals as well https://racingbrake.com/bc-61bs/ ? You do not need to removed the piston to replace the dust boot. You only need to remove the piston to change the O-ring that is on the piston.
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07-16-2022, 09:32 AM | #22 |
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I have a different view point. If you’re tracking that much, I think dust boots simply become a consumable. I would argue that unless you drive on dirt roads or through snow, salt and grime, you don’t really need dust boots. Just clean the pistons out with brake cleaner when you swap pads. Which sounds like at the very least is once or twice per season for you anyway.
I’ve let mine burn on 3 separate cars now, never replaced them, and had no issue. The piston seals are the important piece of rubber here, not the dust boots. |
07-16-2022, 01:07 PM | #23 | |
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I'll buy the stock ones and just replace them on my next pad change just to see how replacing them works. I suppose I just need a pick to take the old ones out and then just press the new ones in by hand? |
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07-16-2022, 02:35 PM | #24 |
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Yeah. It pressing them back in by hands is a reeeeeal beoootch!!!
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07-16-2022, 04:33 PM | #25 |
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What is the size of our dust boots ID and OD? I tried searching but had not luck. The reason I ask is because I'm just going to get the high temp dust boots from RB, but I'm not sure which size to get, they sell them individually.
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07-19-2022, 04:32 PM | #26 |
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I emailed them, they are 30mm.
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07-20-2022, 10:04 AM | #27 |
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Using Ti shims should help a lot or maybe even prevent dust boots from getting destroyed. I started using them too late to know for sure.
So far the vented pistons are working great and the RB dust boots are holding up great without using Ti shims. Also make sure you're using the SS track duct kit for extra cooling. There is also a new CT5-V Blackwing deflector that can be used. https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=605353
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