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Old 08-27-2020, 08:42 AM   #7659
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I think MT is tracking down the wrong path on this one. For one thing, C8.R requires homologation, so that 5.5L NA FPC has to go somewhere. Second, when I listen to all the videos of camo- Z06 mules, I hear FPC. What I don’t hear is turbo whine. There is little doubt that ZR1 will be TT. Right now I’m tracking that as a 5.5TT, but it could arguably be 4.2TT. I agree with MT that the turbos will be outside bank, not hot V.
I would agree. Had this article come out a while ago, I would have guessed they were sharing some bits with Cadillac and the Blackwing. And just about every other publication is saying the same as you, so just thought it was odd MT said something vastly different.

A few points tho

1. I know the C8.R requires the engine to go into production cars, but that is where I get a little confused because didn't the previous C7R, C6R use a 5.5 LT based engine? So couldn't GM use a smaller displacement version of the engine in a production car?

2. I agree i hear FPC and don't hear turbos but then again I don't really hear turbos on a lot of turbo cars until its been modified lol.


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Caddy already blew there load on the very limited productio CT6V blackwing TT 4.2. Very few cars built and no more to be built and no future use for the motor, what a waste. I do realy believe the C8 Z06 will be NA 5.5 DOHC FPC, and it should be IMO, or maybe that will be the GS????.
Yeah what a waste that was.
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Old 08-27-2020, 07:45 PM   #7660
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And today Motor Trend is saying.....

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022...te-z06-engine/
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Old 08-28-2020, 04:35 AM   #7661
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And today Motor Trend is saying.....

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022...te-z06-engine/
If this is true, then it looks similar to the approach with the C6. Z06 is lighter than the Z51 via CF wheels, etc, with a higher revving NA engine (MUCH higher in this case) and ZR1 gets the forced induction. I hope the Z07 suspension package is as extreme as the ZLE. Needs to lap almost as fast as a GT2RS in my opinion to be a home run.
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Old 08-28-2020, 08:04 AM   #7662
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And today Motor Trend is saying.....

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022...te-z06-engine/
You beat me to the punch! Saw that this morning
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Old 08-28-2020, 08:36 AM   #7663
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If this is true, then it looks similar to the approach with the C6. Z06 is lighter than the Z51 via CF wheels, etc, with a higher revving NA engine (MUCH higher in this case) and ZR1 gets the forced induction. I hope the Z07 suspension package is as extreme as the ZLE. Needs to lap almost as fast as a GT2RS in my opinion to be a home run.
Well, there is this picture that was taken during a C8 benchmarking trip.
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Old 08-28-2020, 08:37 AM   #7664
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Well, there is this picture that was taken during a C8 benchmarking trip.
I'll take one of each please. There is a video of these two on the street together too somewhere.
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Old 08-31-2020, 10:21 AM   #7665
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And today Motor Trend is saying.....

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022...te-z06-engine/
Sounds a bit like someone at GM read their article, and corrected them. Looks like the 5.5L N/A FPC is real...

The Z06 is going to be a beast! That platform with more HP (than the Z51), CF (including wheels), and active aero? Wow...
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Old 10-01-2020, 01:15 PM   #7666
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Since its been dead around here and it always got brought up here.

Ford is finally putting the 350 and 350R out to pasture

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/10/01/...-discontinued/
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Old 10-01-2020, 02:41 PM   #7667
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Since its been dead around here and it always got brought up here.

Ford is finally putting the 350 and 350R out to pasture

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/10/01/...-discontinued/
Ford needs to retire that entire chassis and start over.
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Old 10-01-2020, 09:15 PM   #7668
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Why would GM benchmark a NA 600hp V8 versus a 700hp turbocharged car?

I'm not so sure that the Z06 will be NA. Or, those aren't Z06 mules.

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Old 10-01-2020, 10:26 PM   #7669
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Why would GM benchmark a NA 600hp V8 versus a 700hp turbocharged car?

I'm not so sure that the Z06 will be NA. Or, those aren't Z06 mules.

I'm now thinking:
GS - NA FPC
Z06 - TT FPC
ZR1 - hybrid TT FPC

The Tesla Plaid just did a 1:30 at Laguna. Z06 had better fly.
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Old 10-02-2020, 12:27 AM   #7670
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C8 Z06 is going to be forced induction. That is where I'd put my money. I mean, why go backwards?
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Old 10-02-2020, 08:18 AM   #7671
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C8 Z06 is going to be forced induction. That is where I'd put my money. I mean, why go backwards?
Blaqwhole, my ear has been to the ground regarding the C8 ZO6, everything points to a NA 5.5 liter FPC very high RPM 600 plus horsepower engine. The Z06 should be NA imo. Look at the success Corvette racing is having with this engine. The Ford GT350 and 350R would have been just ....meh..... with out the high rpm NA FPC engine, instead the world loved the intoxicating high rpm music that consistantly made the car a check mark above the camaro and corvette. Tough for a Ford hater like me to say. The Z06 started out NA, the super great C6 Z06 was NA, I hope the C8 Z06 will be NA, maybe we will see a Z28 ( get rid of the 1LE designation) NA high rpm 600 horse plus car that could handily beat the discontinued GT350R.
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Old 10-02-2020, 08:42 AM   #7672
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Why would GM benchmark a NA 600hp V8 versus a 700hp turbocharged car?

I'm not so sure that the Z06 will be NA. Or, those aren't Z06 mules.

Why would GM benchmark an out of production N/A, FPC V8 car if it wasn’t N/A? It’s not like the GT2 has a particularly interesting powertrain.

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C8 Z06 is going to be forced induction. That is where I'd put my money. I mean, why go backwards?
I don’t consider the C7 Z06 a step forward. That car was a major step backwards. If the C8 Z06 is N/A, it’s correcting a mistake that never should have been made.
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