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Old 09-01-2018, 10:57 PM   #1
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Evolution of the Event Horizon: 2017 2SS Procharged

I traded in my mildly mod'd 2014 Mustang Premium GT Coupe 6AT after test driving a 2017 Camaro SS on a lark during Memorial Day weekend 2017. My test drive was in the rain....talk about a visibility "challenge". The dealer offered me an excellent deal on the 2017 SS coupe in Mosaic Black exterior with black interior used in my test drive.

- 2SS
- MyLink Audio/Nav System with 8" screen
- Magnetic Ride Control
- 8AT
- Power sunroof
- brushed aluminum 5-spoke aluminum wheels
- front and black bowtie emblems
- All weather floor mats (protect that carpet!)

I liked the amenities associated with the 2SS level vehicle. I wanted the dual-mode NPP exhaust but would have required sacrificing MRC & sunroof at same price point given what was on the dealer's lot at the time.

I loved my Mustang 5.0's looks, power and handling but the Camaro SS was a step up in terms of technology, acceleration, handling and braking--besides looking downright tough. (Its one downside was visibility as all 6th Gen owners are aware). Initially, I thought I would leave the car bone stock. After a month, my intentions changed. I began the process of upgrading the car in every direction. And along the way I tapped into the Camaro 6 forum and the Lethal Garage Youtube series to get quality advice and proven ideas for upgrades -- starting relatively tame and moved to more aggressive mods in 2018.

The upgrades that went into the making of my Event Horizon (black-black-black) are chronicled here. Except I have not listed the 20% VLT tint performed within a 2 weeks of purchasing my car. Window tint is primary external aesthetic mods.

Stock* dyno results (November 2017)

- 398 RWHP/395 RW Torque
- *DiabloSport 93 octane standard tune
- *Roto Fab CAI
- *Borla S Axleback Exhaust
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Old 09-10-2018, 11:09 AM   #2
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Congrats on the new car!
Looking forward to the build!
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Old 09-10-2018, 03:47 PM   #3
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Don't forget to break her in the way you plan on drivin her

welcome to the club, cannot wait to see the power-adder installed.
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Old 09-10-2018, 07:08 PM   #4
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Now To The Fun Parts(s) Between Time of Purchase and Now

I took some time to assemble then sort through the many invoices, emails, charts and pictures to show the sequence of upgrades. (I was inspired by the Lethal Garage [Camaro] ordered listing.)

Instead of providing a word heavy narrative blow-by-blow, I will let the sequenced listing of upgrades which I have organized into projects tell the story of the evolution from Stock to Pretty Hot. I wanted a balanced car so attention was paid to all areas including engine, drive train, wheels & tires, and brakes. I am generally satisfied with the external aesthetics so I have omitted hood/spoiler mods.

Summing up all the labor and part costs of the mods I listed below it is indeed true that I could have purchased a 2018 ZL1 (convertible even). But I didn't have that kind of money (or ability to support that kind of car payment) when I walked in the Chevy dealer in late May 2017 -- I did have the resources to purchase a fully loaded 2017 Camaro SS coupe. The must-have-more performance bug started to bite within weeks --- and then many of us see what we can cobble together to finance incrementally upgrades. I followed that path; particularly when there are demands of family to cover since I'm the breadwinner.

After receiving a serious triple-digit speed infraction in August 2017 and a visit to state court in October 2017 requiring serious legal representation I decided I needed to be pro-active. With the advent of 2018, I invested serious money in obtaining a state-of-the-art "detection suite" suitable to a vehicle that is extraordinarily quick, memorably loud at WOT, and visually just begs state/local law officers to paint you with a radar and/or laser gun. In January-February 2018 I find a shop that handles the rich folk with their exotics to spec me a state-of-the-art front-and-back coverage laser jammer from ALP augmented by a high grade Radenso radar detector to be hard wired with Blendmount custom rear view mirror mount A rear license plate mounted red light camera spoofer from Radenso/NoPhoto was also purchased for the sake of being comprehensive. Now I feel like I'm piloting a F-22 Raptor when it comes to "situational awareness" relative to law enforcement.

If there was one element my Camaro SS that disappointed compared to the 2014 Ford Mustang GT --- it was the stereo system. The 2014 GT's upgraded system was excellent; the Camaro's Bose system was relatively under-powered and sounded a tad muddled. The FoCaL speaker upgrade turned a "good" 9 speaker system into a *stellar* system that is crystal clear at any volume -- and the low profile Pioneer 300W sub woofer offers all the bass one could desire while consuming minimal room in the mini-trunk.

More pictures of the various features will be forthcoming in the future.
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Old 09-10-2018, 07:15 PM   #5
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Oops the PDF file does not seem to work well to show the contents of my upgrade tracking spreadsheet. Time to get raw and basic -- upload screen shots. I have also included the latest dyno sheet post-Procharger.

Dyno Results after Procharger install & tune (July 2018)

- 564 RWHP
- 575 RW FtLb Torque
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Old 09-10-2018, 07:39 PM   #6
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wow man. are all these set in stone or are they considerations?

I wish i had your wallet, i dunno if i'm ready to drop 2600 on the drive/axleshafts
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Old 09-11-2018, 05:24 PM   #7
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Phase 1 and 2 of the Build are Completed

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Congrats on the new car!
Looking forward to the build!
If you scan the list I assembled on the spreadsheet you will see that I indeed moved forward over last year and quarter+- to put some pep in her step.
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Old 09-11-2018, 05:41 PM   #8
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Power Adder Added

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Don't forget to break her in the way you plan on drivin her

welcome to the club, cannot wait to see the power-adder installed.
I would be interested in learning the decision factors for going the turbo route vs. the SC route.

I asked my speed shop of choice (JPC) to spec out the supercharger path and the turbo path at the end of 2017/beginning of 2018 so we could discuss pros and cons - technical, cost and schedule. JPC had extensive experience with street-geared as well as strip-targeted builds incorporating superchargers or turbos, plus we gave some brief consideration to NOx. I wanted a car that was driveable-as linear as possible without being too touchy under 80MPH. They dissuaded from NOx. They told me if I wanted to position myself for real competition on strip -- making north of 1,000 RWHP is their criteria for that category -- then go with Hellion dual turbo. Parts and labor would be $14K starter. And then the entire drive train would *have* to be upgraded and all wheels/tires also reconfigured-so more dollars. Or I could go with entry- or lower middle range centrifugal SC like Procharger D1SC or the P1X. That option was a $10K total for parts, install labor, tune, dyno package. I could anticipate between 500-600 RWHP. No messing with internals of engine and no expensive upgrades of LT1 fuel system. I already had purchased and paid for install of full-length tube headers from Kooks so that was really the deciding factor. Headers would not conflict with Procharger but they would be scrapped for the Hellion upgrade. I did not examine the PD or roots style SC, i.e. Whipple, because I did not want to have the huge low-end power at slight touch of accelerator. I grasped the coolness factor but my choice was to favor mid- to high-end profile of centrifugal SC.
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Old 09-11-2018, 06:02 PM   #9
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Except for E-85 Everything Listed Has Been Done

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wow man. are all these set in stone or are they considerations?

I wish i had your wallet, i dunno if i'm ready to drop 2600 on the drive/axleshafts
I hear you on the cost of axles and drive-shaft. I had saved my pennies for some time so the resources were there to bullet-proof the drive train at the end of the supercharger add-on project.

GForce items are not cheap but they are really strong based on everything I have read and heard. I evaluated the "Outlaw" model axle shaft but that was capacity overkill and too pricey at $1,700. I saw 800+-RWHP (not 1,000-1,250 RWHP) as my maximum output after a Phase 3/4 LT4 type fuel upgrade. So I went with the lower cost --- relatively speaking --- GForce "850HP" model axle shafts at $1,200 before speed shop discount.

I thought about ordering ZL1 driveshaft to save money but I saw that as half-way measure if I went further up the HP ladder.

I evaluated the forum's message threads on durability of the OEM driveshaft (and axle shafts) and the stories were generally positive. A8 under 600 RWHP-probably won't break. I am not a "probably" type girl. When I step in, I want to win not place -- but not at expense of my personal safety. having things that spin at high rates blow up near me makes me want to open my purse......

My shop told me that given my current tires there was a low probability that my axle or driveshaft would break because the Michelin PSS4 305/30-20 tires would act as a safety valve. The rear tires would turn into puddles of rubber on hard off-the-line acceleration with 565 RWHP with the A8 tranny affording a little bit of buffer versus a M6 "drop-the-clutch" at 3,500+ RPM. But part of my master plan in Phase 3 is to go with 315/30-20 Toyo R888R on rear so I can get some serious hookup at launch short of drag radials. JPC said that solves one problems and creates another - now the drive train would be between rock and a hard place.

Bottom line was I wanted insurance.

In interests of absolute candor, drive train upgrade project has been paid for but not all parts have arrived from GForce (still waiting on axle shafts). So technically this mod is "not yet completed".
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Old 09-12-2018, 02:47 PM   #10
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I hear you on the cost of axles and drive-shaft. I had saved my pennies for some time so the resources were there to bullet-proof the drive train at the end of the supercharger add-on project.

GForce items are not cheap but they are really strong based on everything I have read and heard. I evaluated the "Outlaw" model axle shaft but that was capacity overkill and too pricey at $1,700. I saw 800+-RWHP (not 1,000-1,250 RWHP) as my maximum output after a Phase 3/4 LT4 type fuel upgrade. So I went with the lower cost --- relatively speaking --- GForce "850HP" model axle shafts at $1,200 before speed shop discount.

I thought about ordering ZL1 driveshaft to save money but I saw that as half-way measure if I went further up the HP ladder.

I evaluated the forum's message threads on durability of the OEM driveshaft (and axle shafts) and the stories were generally positive. A8 under 600 RWHP-probably won't break. I am not a "probably" type girl. When I step in, I want to win not place -- but not at expense of my personal safety. having things that spin at high rates blow up near me makes me want to open my purse......

My shop told me that given my current tires there was a low probability that my axle or driveshaft would break because the Michelin PSS4 305/30-20 tires would act as a safety valve. The rear tires would turn into puddles of rubber on hard off-the-line acceleration with 565 RWHP with the A8 tranny affording a little bit of buffer versus a M6 "drop-the-clutch" at 3,500+ RPM. But part of my master plan in Phase 3 is to go with 315/30-20 Toyo R888R on rear so I can get some serious hookup at launch short of drag radials. JPC said that solves one problems and creates another - now the drive train would be between rock and a hard place.

Bottom line was I wanted insurance.

In interests of absolute candor, drive train upgrade project has been paid for but not all parts have arrived from GForce (still waiting on axle shafts). So technically this mod is "not yet completed".
I am all about safety!!!!! definitely agree with your decision making regarding that.

Those gforce pictures are like pornography & your making me want to swipe the credit card haha. Buttttt, I think I address my poor stock stall converter first before anymore mods/improvements though. Mine's starting to show its true colors

awesome build, keep posting your progress as you continue to hot-rod!
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Old 10-21-2018, 12:22 AM   #11
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The GForce axleshafts and driveshaft were installed and tested last week; no vibrations or noise and everything tight. The BMR driveshaft v-loop was also put on since I plan to take the car to the strip. I'm now confident that the drive train is robust enough to absorb whatever the engine can throw at it. JPC also took care of two minor items I wanted addressed, namely, cutting a small hole in front protective undercarriage shield to allow for easy access to Procharger oil drain hose plug plus relocating electronic module on driver's side inside rear wheel well to eliminate issues that would occur if 315/30 tires were used that rubbed (see Lethal Camaro youtube).
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Old 01-26-2020, 07:24 PM   #12
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Smile Finally the Major Build by CSP Finished - Learning to Manage

In mid-2019 I decided to research which professional shop on East Coast would undertake a major build to bring the car to a new level where it would be very competitive on the drag strip (possibly track) while remaining street legal, retain reliabilitym and be drivable without too many quirks.

After much deliberation, I selected Complete Street Performance (CSP) in West Chester PA to advise me on what was needed, do the install and integration work, then tune engine and trans, plus conduct street tests using my various tire/wheel sets (Michelin PS4 20" 30 series summer tire set on MRR 017 wheels, M/T Street SS drag radials on MRR 017 rims, and a full set of 17" Forged Star rims with front skinnies and rear M/T Street Rs).

The build started in mid-October and completed mid-January; due to cold weather I had car delivered via enclosed carrier last Friday. Long wait but totally worth it.

Now I have to (re) learn to drive (or manage) an 800+ RWHP/700+ RWTQ vehicle. CSP recommended I go slow to accliminate to the new level of performance-- particulary since the weather is cool and traction will be an issue with street tires no matter the temperature conditions.

I have driven it once for 30 minutes. As CSP told me, it is louder now that cat deletes and AFM valve in Borla S exhaust removed. Much. The car shudders at idle now due to the lopey cam--takes some getting used to. The FTI 3200RPM torque converter changed the personality of low speed in-town driving .... like having a manual 6-speed and gently sliding the clutch at launch or light accelerator shifts. I modestly punched it once - and it locked up. Obviously, the car has crossed a line from street-oriented to strip-focused. Car burns more gas--no surprise. MPG stats not in but did get chance to fill up witha few gallons of E-85. Wish there were more stations that offered E-85 around here...

Some of the details are listed below......fortunately I had alreadytaken care of the suspension (BMR/GM ZL1/Eibach) and drivetrain (GForce) upgrades in place to handle the dramatically increased HP and torque, besides being able to leverage past engine upgrade investments like the full-length Kooks headers.

Replaced 6.2L 376CI LT1 OEM w/Texas Speed & Performance (TSP) 7.0L 427CI LT1 Sleeved Longblock:
-Custom Assembled New GM Block w/Darton Sleeves w/Wet Sump
-TSP Forged Stroker Crank
-TSP Forged H Beam Rods w/APR Hardware
-Wiseco Pistons w/Upgraded Wrist Pins (-10cc)
-ARP Main Stud Kit, ARP Head Studs
-PRC CNC Ported LT1 Cylinder Heads, Johnson 2110R Lifters
-TSP Dual Spring Kit w/Ti Retainers, Hardened Pushrods
-GM Head Gaskets
-Custom Camshaft w/38% Fuel Lobe (.229/.244,.635/.635, 115 + 5, 38% fuel lobe)
-GM Timing Set/GM Oil Pump/GM Exhaust Manifold Gaskets
-DoD/VVT Delete Kit
--Transfer parts from OEM block, e.g. intake manifold, etc.

Other Engine & Cooling Mods:
-NGK Spark Plugs
-Mighty Mouse Catch Can (6th Gen Camaro Wild)-replace JLT Catch Can
-MSD Spark Plug Wires
-Mishimoto Auxiliary Radiator Kit (replace GM)
-NW TB

Upgrade Supercharger:
-Upgrade Program for Procharger D1X Unit (from P1X w/helical gears)
-ATI Harmonic Balancer Upgrade (include new Procharger crank pulley)
-A&A Raceport Blow Off Valve & Coupler (Replace standard Procharger BOV)
-HD Supercharger Belt Green (Replace stock Procharger belt)

Upgrade Fuel System & Injectors:
-Replace LT1 system w/GM LT4 Fuel System Package (LT4 HPFP and LT4 Injectors)
-Add CSP Custom Low-side Auxiliary Fuel System
-Add Custom CSP Methanol System-in. Trunk Mounted 3-gal Tank & Installation
-Install Lethal Garage E-85 Flex Fuel Kit

Upgrade Transmission:
-FTI 3200RPM Stall Street Race Lock-Up 9.5” Torque Converter SRL98082-3 for 8L90E 8-speed Auto

Performance Exhaust Modifications:
-Catalytic converters delete near Kooks full-length headers
- AFM valve removal on Borla-S Axleback

Dyno & Street Tune:
-Boosted Vehicle, Flex Fuel, 2017+ Vehicle PCM,-TCM Tuning,-FPCM Module Licensing,-Add HP Tuner Interface for Remote Tune Install & Diagnostic

Gauges:
-Baro Breakout Harness w/GM 3 Bar MAP Sensor
-Aeroforce Gauge Interceptor Scan Gauge (augment my existing AFR guage)
-Aeroforce 6th Gen Dual Gauge Pod

Drag Tires:
-20X11" MRR017 black gloss rim w/MT ET Street SS 305/45 drag radials rear
-17x4.5" ForgedStar F14 gunmetal rim w/MT Sportsman SR 26X6 skinnies front.
-17x10" ForgedStar F14 gunmetal rim w/MT ET Street R 315/35 drag radials rear

Cosmetic:
-427 side emblems
-Phastek LED Reverse LED Lamps
-HERO Dark 3rd brake light assembly


More pictures are provided in my profile album. I liked adding a subtle 427 emblem on the side ,,,it is a sleeper in appearance otherwise. The dyno chart key is blue = pump gas w/no meth; red=pump gas w/meth; green=e85 50% w/meth. Baseline was 502 RWP on pump gas in CSP dyno.
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Mod 1. Rotofab CAI, Borla S, Tony Mamo TB
Mod 2 Soler Perf TB, SJM Linelock, Kooks headers, ZL1 sway bars, BMR suspension parts, Eibach springs, MRR 017 LE rims & Michelin PS 4S 285&305/30 tires, GeForce half shafts & alum. driveshaft
CSP Build 1/20. Procharger D1X w/Stage 2 IC, Texas Speed 427CI long block w/forged internals/ported LT1 heads/FI cam, LT4 HPFP/injectors, ATI balancer, MM catch can, FTI torque converter, CSP meth injection & aux fuel, Aeroforce gauges, MSD wires, race BOV, PCM/TCM tune.

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Old 01-26-2020, 09:45 PM   #13
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A 427 o m g

I have some catching up to do

Can you please upload a few idle videos? I am dying to hear this thing
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Old 01-27-2020, 05:36 PM   #14
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Post Idle Sound Clips

I will see what I can do to make some sound clips.

Update: I had a chance to capture video/audio snippet of car at idle.

https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=F8733...158977&o=OneUp

You could call this "warmed up" (no cold start) idle. Taken at conclusion of sitting in park (no accessory mode allowed and no driving or interruption) to install a GM navigation system/map update via USB - a 40+ minute process.

That burned up some petrol... but at least I spent of that time to setup my Aeroforce Scan Interceptor guage......
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Mod 1. Rotofab CAI, Borla S, Tony Mamo TB
Mod 2 Soler Perf TB, SJM Linelock, Kooks headers, ZL1 sway bars, BMR suspension parts, Eibach springs, MRR 017 LE rims & Michelin PS 4S 285&305/30 tires, GeForce half shafts & alum. driveshaft
CSP Build 1/20. Procharger D1X w/Stage 2 IC, Texas Speed 427CI long block w/forged internals/ported LT1 heads/FI cam, LT4 HPFP/injectors, ATI balancer, MM catch can, FTI torque converter, CSP meth injection & aux fuel, Aeroforce gauges, MSD wires, race BOV, PCM/TCM tune.

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