[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by ssyellow1

Then again, its hard to go to a track when you get your car in November as most are closed pending where you live.

Speaking to the GT, I'm curious what the gap would be between the new SS if it had the same tires in terms of handling stats. No doubt the Camaro would still have better stats but if anyone has ever driven on P-zeros you would understand how much is left on the table performance wise. I've never driven on the Eagle F1s so I cant really comment on how they are.

That assumes the RFTs on the SS actually perform better than the P-zeros. I don't have experience with the GT's P-zeros, but they make plenty of excellent tires for other cars. RFTs are not known for being great performance tires.

[Childs Play]

Originally Posted by c5Legend

This is why the Mustang already lost, all those cars are hideous

Looks are subjective...

I personally love the interior of the new Mustang. Not the biggest fan of the front end but meh. Just my opinion.

[Denis]

Originally Posted by ssyellow1

Thanks!

2015 GT with the performance pack and Recaros. Sees auto-x and road course duty, not so much drag strip. Couple pics below, and one of my prior toy that put a hurting on a lot of pricy cars.

The Ford boys initially thought I was a troll on their forums due to my name.

love that color! looks really nice with the black wheels.

for me, If I was in the market for a mustang it would be a coin flip between that competition orange and deep impact blue.

[Mike502]

Car & Driver just got 12.5 1/4 on the 350 nonR and even said that's nothing great. But again this is a track car they said. Track car the SS 8 speed auto and the C7 Z51 are getting in the 12'.0 s . I thinks its the low end torque range that's hurting the 1/4 mile times. They even said it's hard to get a good start off the line.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by Mike502

Car & Driver just got 12.5 1/4 on the 350 nonR and even said that's nothing great. But again this is a track car they said. Track car the SS 8 speed auto and the C7 Z51 are getting in the 12'.0 s . I thinks its the low end torque range that's hurting the 1/4 mile times. They even said it's hard to get a good start off the line.

You can't compare magazine times with owner times, they can go either way so it's hard to compare. If you are going to use a magazine time for the GT350, you should do the same for the SS.

So if that was a 12.5, you should use 12.3 (auto) and 12.4 (manual) times IMO...

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

You can't compare magazine times with owner times, they can go either way so it's hard to compare. If you are going to use a magazine time for the GT350, you should do the same for the SS.

So if that was a 12.5, you should use 12.3 (auto) and 12.4 (manual) times IMO...

It's like that pretty much at all forums

Around here you can take member Camaro times, but must compare them only to magazine Challenger and Mustang times because "they're verified to be stock" That's why you get the oft quoted 13.0 time for the Mustang auto and the 12.6 time for the Scat Pack Challenger auto. In reality the Mustang auto has run as fast as 12.5 stock on stock rubber and the Challenger down into the 12.1's..but they're dismissed because they're not "magazine times".

But again, everyone does it, in all camps.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

It's like that pretty much at all forums

Around here you can take member Camaro times, but must compare them only to magazine Challenger and Mustang times because "they're verified to be stock" That's why you get the oft quoted 13.0 time for the Mustang auto and the 12.6 time for the Scat Pack Challenger auto. In reality the Mustang auto has run as fast as 12.5 stock on stock rubber and the Challenger down into the 12.1's..but they're dismissed because they're not "magazine times".

But again, everyone does it, in all camps.

And we already have a 12.0 on a auto ss in the first month in the wild. The 11s are coming.

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[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Mike502

I've owned my share of Shelby GT500's and a few Camaro's. When I drove the new SS last week I bought the damn thing. That's how good I think it is and I even traded in my 13 Boss302. They hate me over @ the G6 mustang forum.

Seems to me that you like nice cars. Congrats on your new Camaro!

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by ssyellow1

Good to see both forums have a nice selection of fanboys. The SS is definitely faster and any Mustang owner disagreeing with this is simply wrong.

Cheers from the other side of the street, gentlemen

Regards,

Current Mustang guy

P.S. Someone stole "ssyellow" on here, a name I have used on every forum for the past 7 years

to the forum, your car looks awesome. I would pick your Competition Orange or Triple Yellow on the Mustang.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

It's like that pretty much at all forums

Around here you can take member Camaro times, but must compare them only to magazine Challenger and Mustang times because "they're verified to be stock" That's why you get the oft quoted 13.0 time for the Mustang auto and the 12.6 time for the Scat Pack Challenger auto. In reality the Mustang auto has run as fast as 12.5 stock on stock rubber and the Challenger down into the 12.1's..but they're dismissed because they're not "magazine times".

But again, everyone does it, in all camps.

I see your point, but using the one off best ET's aren't the best comparison either as those times are not typical. Like what people on here and M6G call "hero times". I have been drag racing for like 20 years and have never in my life heard that time used...lol. The best ET is just that, the best ET, not this "hero time" BS.

The 12.5 time for stock auto Mustangs is beyond rare, like one of two have hit that. Most are in the high 12's. 392 12.1's are a rarity too, most of those guys are in the mid 12's. I think that these new SS's are going to run quicker and much more consistently then both of those cars though. I mean so far for the autos the two magazine tests have been 12.3 and 12.2, and private owners have hit 12.3, 12.2 and 12.0. As for the manuals, magazine tests have been 12.5, 12.4 and 12.4. I know of one private owner who has hit a 12.3 last week. So much less of a spread from magazine times, to owner times, to these so called "hero times" so far with the SS.

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

I see your point, but using the one off best ET's aren't the best comparison either as those times are not typical. Like what people on here and M6G call "hero times". I have been drag racing for like 20 years and have never in my life heard that time used...lol. The best ET is just that, the best ET, not this "hero time" BS.

Sure, it's a personal best, but perhaps the term "hero [whatever]" is more readily recognized with respect to autocross run times or time trial lap times than it is at drag racing - which wouldn't surprise me a bit.

Ever hear of an exceptionally good drag racer referred to as an "alien driver"? (I'm guessing not, but it's a widely recognized term in the autocross world.) Two different languages sometimes.


Norm

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

I see your point, but using the one off best ET's aren't the best comparison either as those times are not typical. Like what people on here and M6G call "hero times". I have been drag racing for like 20 years and have never in my life heard that time used...lol. The best ET is just that, the best ET, not this "hero time" BS.

The 12.5 time for stock auto Mustangs is beyond rare, like one of two have hit that. Most are in the high 12's. 392 12.1's are a rarity too, most of those guys are in the mid 12's. I think that these new SS's are going to run quicker and much more consistently then both of those cars though. I mean so far for the autos the two magazine tests have been 12.3 and 12.2, and private owners have hit 12.3, 12.2 and 12.0. As for the manuals, magazine tests have been 12.5, 12.4 and 12.4. I know of one private owner who has hit a 12.3 last week. So much less of a spread from magazine times, to owner times, to these so called "hero times" so far with the SS.

In defense of the scat pack it's stock rear tires are piss poor.

They run very close to the camaro when both have a tire. I believe the best time is 11.89 so far and the guy claims stock with DR. The camaro will probably only clip that by a tenth or two in the next few years.

[IOMike]

The thing about magazine times is if all 3 cars are run on the same day you know there are as few variables as you will ever get. These hero times may have slight modifications like tunes or other "hidden" mods.

The only relative times are the mag times between the Camaro and Mustang because they were on the same day.

Let's not forget that stock 10.4 hellcat that had race fuel, drag radials and later found to have a hidden shot of nitrous.

[Mike502]

Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

You can't compare magazine times with owner times, they can go either way so it's hard to compare. If you are going to use a magazine time for the GT350, you should do the same for the SS.

So if that was a 12.5, you should use 12.3 (auto) and 12.4 (manual) times IMO...

You can't get an auto trans in the 350. All I'm saying is the 1/4 mile times are not anything to write home about in the non R350.