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InFiD3ViL · 03-07-2020, 01:53 PM

I am going to be starting my cam install in the next few days and am trying to plan everything out before hand. I know well enough things don't always go as planned though.

Anyhow, one of my concerns is with the install method with the BTR valve seals with the separate seat. I was going to buy the install tool BTR sells but I noticed that those are mainly for use when the heads are off the engine.

So what did you all use? I have seen some posts of people using a 12mm deep socket and lightly driving them down. But I don't want to tear the seal or mess up the delicate seal spring. What's the safest method?

fif_gen_powa · 03-07-2020, 02:11 PM

Buy the BTR tool you can do it with the heads still on

InFiD3ViL · 03-07-2020, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fif_gen_powa

Buy the BTR tool you can do it with the heads still on

Really? I was worried it wouldn't leave enough room for the valve stems. But I could just bring the piston to TDC and let them drop a little right? Nice!

tartagliazl1 · 03-07-2020, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by InFiD3ViL

Really? I was worried it wouldn't leave enough room for the valve stems. But I could just bring the piston to TDC and let them drop a little right? Nice!

I have the btr tool if your interested $10 I’ll ship it to you. I went with Texas speed so didn’t need the tool.

InFiD3ViL · 03-07-2020, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tartagliazl1

I have the btr tool if your interested $10 I’ll ship it to you. I went with Texas speed so didn’t need the tool.

I already ordered it, but I do appreciate it. I used a gift card so it was no big deal. Thanks man.

tartagliazl1 · 03-07-2020, 03:06 PM

Ok never used it, and is too late to return it so it’s just sitting in my tool box. Good luck with the cam swap.

Greenhornet2 · 03-07-2020, 06:55 PM

Did it with a 12mm deep

RobZL1 · 03-07-2020, 08:03 PM

You can bring the piston to TDC and get it done. That's what I did. Also used a socket with no issues to install the seals. Been fine for over 10k daily-driven miles since last May.

Badbubba · 03-09-2020, 02:01 PM

Why new valve seals? Just for the sake of doing it while your in there or do the new springs interfere? Therefore a different style of seal.

InFiD3ViL · 03-09-2020, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Badbubba

Why new valve seals? Just for the sake of doing it while your in there or do the new springs interfere? Therefore a different style of seal.

I currently have the blue GM beehives with the 1 piece hat style seals. I am installing BTR dual springs for my cam swap and they require the 2 piece seal/seat to not interfere with the small inner spring.

marklsx · 04-11-2020, 10:05 PM

The BTR install tool worked well for me.

03-07-2020, 01:53 PM	#1
InFiD3ViL Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS LS3 Swapped A6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 4,570	BTR valve seal installation I am going to be starting my cam install in the next few days and am trying to plan everything out before hand. I know well enough things don't always go as planned though. Anyhow, one of my concerns is with the install method with the BTR valve seals with the separate seat. I was going to buy the install tool BTR sells but I noticed that those are mainly for use when the heads are off the engine. So what did you all use? I have seen some posts of people using a 12mm deep socket and lightly driving them down. But I don't want to tear the seal or mess up the delicate seal spring. What's the safest method? __________________ 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS LS3 Swapped A6 - GPI LS3 SS1 .647/.638, (224/237, 112 +4, 7º overlap) on CamMotion 8620 core, BTR Platinum .660" Dual Spring kit w/titanium retainers, CHE bronze trunnion upgrade, stock heads milled @ .015, Melling HV 10296 oil pump, TSP 1-7/8" long tube headers (W/Catless Off-road Pipes), Corsa Xtreme 3" Catback, GPI Ported/Rod Mod Intake, Stage 2 Ported Throttle Body, Vararam OTR CAI, Mike Norris Gen 2 catch can + GM 1LE clean side separator, 160º thermostat - Megan Racing adjustable coilovers (lowered 1.75"), MRR M017 10/11" wheels-Tuned by Ryan @ GPI

03-07-2020, 02:11 PM	#2
fif_gen_powa Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Turbo Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,525	Buy the BTR tool you can do it with the heads still on __________________ 388ci 91/104 Turbo TH400 8.3@164 https://instagram.com/turbo_ls3/

03-07-2020, 03:06 PM	#6
tartagliazl1 Drives: 2013 zl1 vert Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Rochester, New york Posts: 949	Ok never used it, and is too late to return it so it’s just sitting in my tool box. Good luck with the cam swap. __________________ 22% lower/ 2.5 upper/ 2” headers/ cat delete/ x-pipe/ 2 gallon x tank/ 100-3 pump/ fic 850/ dsx aux kit/ 103mm throttle body/ RPM 5” intake/ meth kit/ prometh lid injection/FI interchiller/ 160* stat/ ngk-7/ msd wires/ elite catch can/ tsp cam/ Che trunnions/ ported supercharger/ 1/2” lid spacer/ brick mod/BMR toe and trailing arms/ 751hp 757 tq SAE @17.3lb on a loaded dyno.

03-07-2020, 06:55 PM	#7
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	Did it with a 12mm deep __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

03-07-2020, 08:03 PM	#8
RobZL1 fo'shizZL1 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: ATL Posts: 1,281	You can bring the piston to TDC and get it done. That's what I did. Also used a socket with no issues to install the seals. Been fine for over 10k daily-driven miles since last May. __________________ 2017 ZL1 M6 Black \| Maggie 2650 // 103TB // Big Gulp Past Rides- 2014 ZL1 M6 Red Hot \| Tons of mods 2004 CTS-V M6 Silver \| Many mods 1995 Corvette M6 Torch Red \| A few more mods 1992 Camaro M5 White \| A few mods

03-09-2020, 02:01 PM	#9
Badbubba GrINned & JUICEd Drives: 15STI, 10Expy, 10 2SS/RS M6, 47KB1 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,247	Why new valve seals? Just for the sake of doing it while your in there or do the new springs interfere? Therefore a different style of seal. __________________ GPI SS3 Cam & stuff,N.O. Plate(dedicated fuel tank,progressive,fuel hose upgrade,remote opener,heater,console switches),LNC2000,CTAP,ARH 1 7/8" LTs/gutted cats/X pipe/mufflers,Jet Hot coated LTs,GPI HPT Tune,CAI, Scoop,Rx Catch Can,Gates heater hose relocation, Remote clutch & auto brake res,Metco loop,Momentum Tunnel Brace,TSW Nurb 18",555 & 05,Pfadt trailing arms & toe rods,Autometer WB,Fesler Pillar Pod,LED strips (int),Lloyds floor & trunk mats,LED DRL/front turn & license plate,DRL harness,VLEDs tail lights,Plasticoat Bowties. Ord: Oct 5, 2009 Rec: Nov 19, 2009 13.17@112.6 stock

04-11-2020, 10:05 PM	#11
marklsx Drives: 2014 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: MA Posts: 103	The BTR install tool worked well for me. __________________ 2014 1SS - BTR Stg3, GMPP CNC Heads, Kooks LTs & cats, Magnaflow 2.5" Street w/Res X, Z28 CAI