[Sol4rfl4re]

Sounds like the red race valve. It's fairly loud, not for everyone.

Yes, that's safe. Just remember, there's no need for the red race valve at that low of a PSI. So if you get it is just for sound.

[Cdflyer]

Originally Posted by Detroit Muscle

So if I go to with the D-1SC , stage 2 intercooler, and race bypass valve and I plan to always stay at 7 psi, i should be plenty safe right?? (I love the sound of a procharger that's why I want the D-1SC and no helical gears)

With those goals, and never wanting to go more boost, I'd stay with the P1SC. The D1 isn't going to make much noise difference. They use the same gear reduction, the impeller blades are just angled different to move more CFM. Either way, you'll end up wanting more boost which is where the D1 will be a benefit.

[Sol4rfl4re]

At the very least P1x. I see the P1sc being phased out as the base blower for V8s. Old tech.

[Swagger]

Originally Posted by PackersFan26

You may want to consider driveshaft/rearend upgrades at that HP level as you probably know. I'd hate to do a pull against a mustang just to break shit and be embarrassed lol

My car is never a drag race car, no digs and crap... Highway player or roll runs only. Should be just fine, the clutch may not love me tho LOL

[Detroit Muscle]

awesome advice guys thanks !

[Camaro455ss]

Originally Posted by Detroit Muscle

Just wondering what set-up you guys went with? (head unit etc..)
And is yours quiet or loud? And if its loud how did you make it that way? (I want to be able to hear this thing if I go this route!) Thanks!

Lethal Camaro had it done to his, but the charger was wrecked? He didnt do a video as to what went wrong, just that they put it back into it! Does anyone know what was wrong with it?

[aka Reckless]

We have dome a number of Procharger cars and the stuff is great! I chose to try the East Coast setup for my car. Very happy with this kit as well!

[blkbeauty16]

I went with the P1x pro charger with the quiet gears very happy with it. I just received my fuel pumps and injectors waiting on smaller pulley then will install and run e85.
I put a d1x in my sons 03 mach 1 and its super loud i'm glad I went with what I did. He's only 20 so he likes the noise lol. I think all are a good choice and do agree if you go the p1 route I would do the p1x.

[ProCharger]

Originally Posted by Sol4rfl4re

The lower the boost levels the more identical the power will look. For example at 7psi the D1 might only make 10whp more than the P1, at 10psi the D1 might make 25 more, and so on. From what I've seen the D1 will use a one size larger pulley to keep psi even with P1, so same pulley D1 will make slightly more, how much more depends on pulley chosen.

Man I hate to be the guy to say this....
BUT, please don't spread information like this, without actual data.
This is how internet rumors get started.

The boost and power curves of the P1 and D1 are identical. (same with outlet temp) When you match the boost/cfm flow to each other.

EXAMPLE: If you have....
Car #1: 4.00" pulley on a P1 car and make 600hp and 8psi
Car #2: 4.25" pulley on a D1 car and make 600hp and 8psi

You would NEVER be able to tell which car has what blower.
Since everything about them would be identical...
(I know this because I have done this test many times)


The ONLY difference is that the D1 moves more air per revolution.
So thus, it needs a larger pulley to match the boost...
AND it can make about 100 more HP on the top over the P1.


But yes, the blowers will stop flowing right at their redline of impeller speed.
That's why we have the "redline" max rpm rating. It's not only because of gearbox safety... but also because that's pretty much where the power stops.



The D1X is a different story, (and p1x) since they are unrelated in impeller design.


Thanks!
Erik Radzins


NOTE ON SOUND:
All P1, P1X, D1, D1X will sound the same. Since they share the same gearboxes.
Standard straight cut is louder,
Helical gears are for more reduced sound,

[ProCharger]

Originally Posted by Camaro455ss

Lethal Camaro had it done to his, but the charger was wrecked? He didnt do a video as to what went wrong, just that they put it back into it! Does anyone know what was wrong with it?

Nothing,

I personally took his blower out of the box... and installed in on our Camaro here and it worked exactly as it was supposed to.

Then did all sorts of sound/temp/flow testing and she checked out perfectly.

Even took it fully apart and did full bearing and gear inspection, and all was good.

So she got resealed, put back in a box and returned.
She is a good blower, and will live a happy life.

[Sol4rfl4re]

Originally Posted by ProCharger

Man I hate to be the guy to say this....
BUT, please don't spread information like this, without actual data.
This is how internet rumors get started.

The boost and power curves of the P1 and D1 are identical. (same with outlet temp) When you match the boost/cfm flow to each other.

EXAMPLE: If you have....
Car #1: 4.00" pulley on a P1 car and make 600hp and 8psi
Car #2: 4.25" pulley on a D1 car and make 600hp and 8psi

You would NEVER be able to tell which car has what blower.
Since everything about them would be identical...
(I know this because I have done this test many times)


The ONLY difference is that the D1 moves more air per revolution.
So thus, it needs a larger pulley to match the boost...
AND it can make about 100 more HP on the top over the P1.


But yes, the blowers will stop flowing right at their redline of impeller speed.
That's why we have the "redline" max rpm rating. It's not only because of gearbox safety... but also because that's pretty much where the power stops.



The D1X is a different story, (and p1x) since they are unrelated in impeller design.


Thanks!
Erik Radzins


NOTE ON SOUND:
All P1, P1X, D1, D1X will sound the same. Since they share the same gearboxes.
Standard straight cut is louder,
Helical gears are for more reduced sound,

Thanks for chiming in. If it flows more air per revolution then it should translate to a bit more power on the dyno even if a small amount, P1 revs to 65000 and flows 1200 and D1sc revs to 62000 and flows 1400, each rev is worth more. I've seen some of your posts and I don't agree with some of them. You yourself have said in other forums that a D1 is worth roughtly 30hp over a P1 and the P1x cuts that difference in half. You like to spread misinformation about how good prochargers tunes are, but I've seen actual/factual data. have a good day.


Edit: but I will say I love your blower kits and stand behind the product 110%

[Detroit Muscle]

Originally Posted by ProCharger

NOTE ON SOUND:
All P1, P1X, D1, D1X will sound the same. Since they share the same gearboxes.
Standard straight cut is louder,
Helical gears are for more reduced sound,

So you're saying the D-1SC and the P-1SC with straight cut gears,stage 2 intercooler, with the race bypass valve would both sound the same then??

[Sol4rfl4re]

Yup. Just make sure the race valve is what you want, listen to some vids or in person if possible.

[DenverTaco07]

I don't have a Procharged LT1