K&N Cold Air Intake Kit: No ECU Tune Required

kraut1971 · 03-13-2020, 09:59 AM

Has anyone installed the K&N CAI? It's by far the best priced system I've seen so far (~$300 on Amazon) and claim that no ECU tune required. Interested to hear if anyone has this and if they're happy with the results...

HCI2000SS · 03-13-2020, 11:03 AM

I'm interested in this as well. Looking at the K&N myself

Sicilian Medic · 03-13-2020, 02:00 PM

I have the K & N Typhoon on my '19 RS and have had no issues so far. I'm sure a tune would optimize the overall performance, with or without the CAI.

SoulCyphyr71 · 03-13-2020, 04:20 PM

I have had the K&N Typhoon installed on my V6 now for over 6k miles. No issues. I have had a tune included after installing an 80mm throttle body and ported intake manifold just under 1k miles ago. Still no issues.

Jvert18 · 03-14-2020, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sicilian Medic

I have the K & N Typhoon on my '19 RS and have had no issues so far. I'm sure a tune would optimize the overall performance, with or without the CAI.

Same here, no regrets

Matt1LE · 04-11-2020, 02:05 PM

Has anyone heard anything about Cold Air Inductions? Their kit seems a little better than K & N. From what I can see...

https://www.coldairinductions.com/sh...extured-black/

Bigdumogre · 04-11-2020, 02:19 PM

K&N, cold air and Roto fab are some of the best. Get anyone in your price range and usually don’t need a tune with any of them.

MISTAPOWA · 04-13-2020, 08:39 AM

Your tune needs to rescaled to take advantage of the larger intake of air. Just because you don't get a CEL doesn't mean you don't need a tune.

cellsafemode · 04-16-2020, 01:18 PM

the maf measures airflow and if the specs around it are within tolerances of the stock tune, then the amount of air that is getting to the engine is fully accounted for whether you're in the stock tune or not.

Tunes for intakes are needed if you're outside of those tolerances and so the constants that the tune uses to determine air flow and density end up being wrong to varying degrees.

Any other change in performance from a tune has nothing to do with the intake. Our stock intakes are not anemic or restrictive (especially if you've dropped in a gauze filter). The maf is more than capable of measuring the air getting to the engine regardless of how much air that is (at least in non-FI) so long as the constants haven't changed and when they do, it doesn't take much for it throw a code.

tldr; if you throw a code, you need a recal of your tune or fix whatever installation mistake you made. If you dont, then you're fine. CAI's are for show more than function in these cars since the stock intake is a CAI. You're really just swapping filters.

MISTAPOWA · 04-17-2020, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cellsafemode

the maf measures airflow and if the specs around it are within tolerances of the stock tune, then the amount of air that is getting to the engine is fully accounted for whether you're in the stock tune or not.

Tunes for intakes are needed if you're outside of those tolerances and so the constants that the tune uses to determine air flow and density end up being wrong to varying degrees.

Any other change in performance from a tune has nothing to do with the intake. Our stock intakes are not anemic or restrictive (especially if you've dropped in a gauze filter). The maf is more than capable of measuring the air getting to the engine regardless of how much air that is (at least in non-FI) so long as the constants haven't changed and when they do, it doesn't take much for it throw a code.

tldr; if you throw a code, you need a recal of your tune or fix whatever installation mistake you made. If you dont, then you're fine. CAI's are for show more than function in these cars since the stock intake is a CAI. You're really just swapping filters.

Even if you don't throw a hard code, the a/f is still off from the ECU trying to compensate. The GM intake with no rescale will have the a/f's all over under WOT according to the sniffer. Even though after a few drive cycles it doesn't set a permeant DTC, it will will show in a scanner off and on as a pending.

cellsafemode · 04-17-2020, 09:38 AM

The gm intake specifically alters the diameter around the maf and tells you that the intake requires a recal to compensate. Not actually triggering a code with it is an exception.

For intakes that are marketed to not require a recal, they mimic the air bridge diameter and position very closely to stock. Any variation in the AF at WOT with them would not be on par with the GM intake or any other intake that mentioned that you needed a recal for.

that's an apples to oranges comparison you're making.

Zapote21 · 04-23-2020, 12:33 PM

I have had only K&N in all my Camaros. Love it! 2011 2SS, 2012 2SS, 2013 2SS, 2017 V6, 2018 V6 and now my 2020 2SS.
Easy install, great price.

03-13-2020, 09:59 AM	#1
kraut1971 BITCHN Camaro Drives: SOLD! Back in the looking zone... Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Saline, MI Posts: 248 View My Garage	K&N Cold Air Intake Kit: No ECU Tune Required Has anyone installed the K&N CAI? It's by far the best priced system I've seen so far (~$300 on Amazon) and claim that no ECU tune required. Interested to hear if anyone has this and if they're happy with the results... __________________ BITCHN

04-11-2020, 02:05 PM	#6
Matt1LE Drives: 2020 3LT Camaro 3.6L 1LE Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: San Diego Posts: 256	Cold Air Inductions Has anyone heard anything about Cold Air Inductions? Their kit seems a little better than K & N. From what I can see... https://www.coldairinductions.com/sh...extured-black/

04-11-2020, 02:19 PM	#7
Bigdumogre Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: New York Posts: 1,434	K&N, cold air and Roto fab are some of the best. Get anyone in your price range and usually don’t need a tune with any of them. __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS - CSP Custom Cam 232/240 .615/.615 113 +3, Texas speed CNC heads, FTI billet triple disc converter, K&N cai, Katech ported TB, GPI Ported/rod modded manifold, Texas speed 1 7/8 headers, HFC, Flowmaster 2 chambers with x pipe, Mishimoto CC, MSD wires, Roto fab washer relocation, tru cool 40k trans cooler, apex scoop, Pedders extreme coil overs and much more!!

04-23-2020, 12:33 PM	#12
Zapote21 Tampa Bay Camaros Drives: 2017 Krypton Green 2SS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Westfield, IN Posts: 1,018 View My Garage	I have had only K&N in all my Camaros. Love it! 2011 2SS, 2012 2SS, 2013 2SS, 2017 V6, 2018 V6 and now my 2020 2SS. Easy install, great price. __________________ Me and wife, in order 2011 2SS SGM 2013 2SS Hot wheels vert 2016 C7 DSOM 2012 2SS yellow vert 2017 2LT Krypton Green 2018 2LT Hot wheels crush 2020 2SS Shock vert. 2017 2SS Krypton Green coupe

03-13-2020, 11:03 AM	#2
HCI2000SS Drives: 2018 Camaro V6/RS Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: MI Posts: 1,596	I'm interested in this as well. Looking at the K&N myself

03-13-2020, 02:00 PM	#3
Sicilian Medic Drives: 2019 Satin Steel Metallic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Vail, AZ Posts: 81	I have the K & N Typhoon on my '19 RS and have had no issues so far. I'm sure a tune would optimize the overall performance, with or without the CAI.

03-13-2020, 04:20 PM	#4
SoulCyphyr71 Drives: 2018 Chevrolet Camaro RS Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Lafayette, Indiana Posts: 119	I have had the K&N Typhoon installed on my V6 now for over 6k miles. No issues. I have had a tune included after installing an 80mm throttle body and ported intake manifold just under 1k miles ago. Still no issues.

04-13-2020, 08:39 AM	#8
MISTAPOWA Drives: camaro rs Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: newburgh Posts: 26	Your tune needs to rescaled to take advantage of the larger intake of air. Just because you don't get a CEL doesn't mean you don't need a tune.

04-16-2020, 01:18 PM	#9
cellsafemode Drives: 2016 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: California Posts: 3,491	the maf measures airflow and if the specs around it are within tolerances of the stock tune, then the amount of air that is getting to the engine is fully accounted for whether you're in the stock tune or not. Tunes for intakes are needed if you're outside of those tolerances and so the constants that the tune uses to determine air flow and density end up being wrong to varying degrees. Any other change in performance from a tune has nothing to do with the intake. Our stock intakes are not anemic or restrictive (especially if you've dropped in a gauze filter). The maf is more than capable of measuring the air getting to the engine regardless of how much air that is (at least in non-FI) so long as the constants haven't changed and when they do, it doesn't take much for it throw a code. tldr; if you throw a code, you need a recal of your tune or fix whatever installation mistake you made. If you dont, then you're fine. CAI's are for show more than function in these cars since the stock intake is a CAI. You're really just swapping filters.

04-17-2020, 09:38 AM	#11
cellsafemode Drives: 2016 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: California Posts: 3,491	The gm intake specifically alters the diameter around the maf and tells you that the intake requires a recal to compensate. Not actually triggering a code with it is an exception. For intakes that are marketed to not require a recal, they mimic the air bridge diameter and position very closely to stock. Any variation in the AF at WOT with them would not be on par with the GM intake or any other intake that mentioned that you needed a recal for. that's an apples to oranges comparison you're making.

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