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GulfWarVet · 02-10-2019, 11:05 AM

When I was a teenager I simply put air shocks under the back of my hot rod to produce the forward leaning incline that I wanted.

Can this be done to the Gen 5?

I really don't want to lower the front but I would like to see that back end lifted for that nostalgic look that I remember.

Ideas? Photos? I would love to see and hear your thoughts.

dianeokie · 02-10-2019, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GulfWarVet

When I was a teenager I simply put air shocks under the back of my hot rod to produce the forward leaning incline that I wanted.

Can this be done to the Gen 5?

I really don't want to lower the front but I would like to see that back end lifted for that nostalgic look that I remember.

Ideas? Photos? I would love to see and hear your thoughts.

I just saw your post and I like the old school look too. I think I have that look without raising the rear and lowering the front. My OEM body kit is not painted and kind of gives that illusion. My car is lowered about an inch.

Batmanntexas · 02-10-2019, 11:51 AM

How much would you want to raise the rear?

The Camaro uses a normal shock in the rear, so you could probably get an air shock in there, however ride quality might suffer a bit. Unlike the old school cars that had a solid axle, if you were to utilize air shocks in the rear, it would probably necessitate some changes to the rear alignment since it is an IRS car or you could end up with accelerated tire wear issues. This would also require you to monitor the air pretty regularly to ensure ride height is consistent.

A new set of coil springs that raise the back end 1, 1-1/2", might be the better option. It would still require the alignment adjustment, but it would be a 'once and done' type thing, and shouldn't affect ride quality.

-Scott

Quicksilver2SS · 02-10-2019, 11:53 AM

You can have spacers machined up for your rear springs, handling and alignment will be affected.

Batmanntexas · 02-10-2019, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilver2SS

You can have spacers machined up for your rear springs, handling and alignment will be affected.

Nice!! Didn't even think about a spacer. Probably the cheaper route, too.

-Scott

redcoats1976 · 02-10-2019, 12:03 PM

im thinking it would mess up your ride and handling to raise the rear too high.my old pontiac was raised in the rear,lowered in the front and the handling wasnt very good.

Quicksilver2SS · 02-10-2019, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeROC

Just throwing this out there as another option, but just get taller tires for the rear?

Definitely! Rubber rake, you'll have to re gear to compensate though.

silversleeper · 02-10-2019, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeROC

Just throwing this out there as another option, but just get taller tires for the rear?

Can't do that with modern cars now. Throws all kinds of warning lights, it thinks the tires are skidding because fronts spinning faster than the rears.

DRKS1D3 · 02-11-2019, 06:04 AM

Lower the front and leave the rear stock. This is your best option for making it look like it's straight outta 1981.

steakmaker · 02-11-2019, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeROC

Just throwing this out there as another option, but just get taller tires for the rear?

There's a limit how much of a difference you can have in the diameter of the front & rear tires because you'll mess up the computer's breaking response.Not only that,your traction & handling will be out the window with the weight transfered changed.

Talladega · 02-16-2019, 02:08 PM

So is there a good option out there for off the shelf parts to raise the rear end? I too like the raked look but don't want to lower the front I would rather raise the rear.

pnwdan · 02-16-2019, 03:34 PM

There isnt much option other than lowering the front. With independent suspension in the rear it doesnt lend to being lifted up like the old school cars.

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hunter1660 · 02-16-2019, 04:22 PM

The air shocks and or shackles on the leaf springs to lift the rear of cars was to gain clearance for wider tires. Otherwise the fenders would scrub and cut into the tire,that hung out past the fenders. It worked,and looked cool doing so.

Talladega · 02-16-2019, 05:53 PM

Wouldn't taller springs or a spacer achieve the goal of raising the rear end, even with independent rear suspension? I assume the issue is nobody is making said parts.

02-10-2019, 11:05 AM	#1
GulfWarVet Drives: 2011 Camaro RS Convertible Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Boise Posts: 2	Agressive Stance- Old School Rake? When I was a teenager I simply put air shocks under the back of my hot rod to produce the forward leaning incline that I wanted. Can this be done to the Gen 5? I really don't want to lower the front but I would like to see that back end lifted for that nostalgic look that I remember. Ideas? Photos? I would love to see and hear your thoughts.

02-10-2019, 11:51 AM	#3
Batmanntexas Drives: 2012 Camaro SS (2SS) Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 1,372 View My Garage	How much would you want to raise the rear? The Camaro uses a normal shock in the rear, so you could probably get an air shock in there, however ride quality might suffer a bit. Unlike the old school cars that had a solid axle, if you were to utilize air shocks in the rear, it would probably necessitate some changes to the rear alignment since it is an IRS car or you could end up with accelerated tire wear issues. This would also require you to monitor the air pretty regularly to ensure ride height is consistent. A new set of coil springs that raise the back end 1, 1-1/2", might be the better option. It would still require the alignment adjustment, but it would be a 'once and done' type thing, and shouldn't affect ride quality. -Scott __________________ 745RWHP/634RWTQ on 93 @ 10psi 806/676 on E85 @ 10psi COTW 9/8/14

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02-16-2019, 03:34 PM	#12
pnwdan Drives: 2014 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Washington Posts: 848	There isnt much option other than lowering the front. With independent suspension in the rear it doesnt lend to being lifted up like the old school cars. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk __________________ 2014 2SS/RS LS3/M6

02-10-2019, 12:03 PM	#6
redcoats1976 Drives: LT W/2LT,blue metallic Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: central florida Posts: 4,914	im thinking it would mess up your ride and handling to raise the rear too high.my old pontiac was raised in the rear,lowered in the front and the handling wasnt very good.

02-16-2019, 02:08 PM	#11
Talladega Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 686	So is there a good option out there for off the shelf parts to raise the rear end? I too like the raked look but don't want to lower the front I would rather raise the rear.

02-16-2019, 04:22 PM	#13
hunter1660 Drives: 2011ss/rs camaro Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: florida Posts: 1,261	The air shocks and or shackles on the leaf springs to lift the rear of cars was to gain clearance for wider tires. Otherwise the fenders would scrub and cut into the tire,that hung out past the fenders. It worked,and looked cool doing so. __________________ . OBX LTH,Rotofab,Magnuson Heartbeat.AEM wideband, HP Tuners

02-16-2019, 05:53 PM	#14
Talladega Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 686	Wouldn't taller springs or a spacer achieve the goal of raising the rear end, even with independent rear suspension? I assume the issue is nobody is making said parts.