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Old 02-14-2018, 01:08 PM   #1
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My Maryland Speed Experience

I’ve spent two-weeks trying to figure out how to write this review. Being unbiased was my focus, and I know I need to set up my story, so I will try to keep it short and still get my point across. Here goes…:

I was just poking around whatever sites came up when I searched for Kook’s headers (I had specific needs for this exact system for my rig) when I stumbled into Maryland Speed’s (MS) website. I really had no intent on making a purchase because of cost and I wasn’t going to skimp on materials or workmanship, so I really thought there was no chance I’d make a purchase. However, after adding the Kook’s headers and their H-pipe into my cart so I could see what shipping would be, a chat request came up. I accepted and was offered a price I couldn’t believe; and that price was only good right then – not later. I was skeptical and knew I’d be taking a chance, but ultimately took the chance and placed an order because the price was FAR from anything else. I did not make it known I was a moderator on this site, nor did I even notice to check if they were a sponsor (again – I had no intent on actually making a purchase when I stumbled into the site). So I read all the disclaimers and placed my order – I was very excited).

Long story short – six-months later, I have a set of new Kook’s headers and H-pipe. I received exactly what I ordered. I was not pleasant to deal with for the last four-months because it was taking so long. It, however, DOES say in the disclaimer orders can take a long time because of the huge discounts. That is NO joke. There are some details I’m leaving out, but suffice to say that I got what I paid for, and looking back, think that the wait was worth it. Considering the price I paid for what I got, I am not going to be mad. I can tell you I was frantic the last several months thinking that my money was stolen and that I wouldn’t get anything, but that was NOT the case. YES – it took A LONG time. Did I think or know it would take this long? No. Was I told it might take this long? No. Would it have been less stressful had I known these things from the beginning? Yes. Is it fair to ask for these things? Maybe…

I have no idea how MS gets these discounts, officially. I have my suspicions but I really don’t know. They may operate like an over-stock-style store where they buy up a bunch of super-cheap stuff other stores can’t sell and turn around and sell them, or just buy from distributors that order so much product they get ridiculous discounts because of the volume of good they move. It isn’t my business to know exactly how MS gets these deals, but they do. IT TAKES TIME THOUGH. If you want the low price more than how fast you get your product, MS can be a good option in my opinion. Could MS have done things differently for me? Yes. They didn’t know I was a moderator on a site they sponsor until a few months into my order because I wasn’t looking for special treatment, but I think they treated me well enough. I think they could’ve communicated how long the wait could be and that the way they procure product can take a long time for the kinds of discounts they offer. That is probably not a good business model for them though because who wants to wait six-months for headers they could get from Summit in a day? Well – I would, if I knew some more details, but I’m sure MS knows MOST people won’t wait that long if you tell them. I could’ve asked for more questions in the beginning or even said I’d pay more to get them faster, but those were things I didn’t think of because (after waiting 60-days and not getting anything) I immediately started thinking some dude I’ve never seen, 3000-miles away, stole more than $1000 from me. Brandon and Maryland Speed did NOT steal ANYTHING from me though. Yes – it took forever to get my stuff. BUT – I got it. Did I get it for the price I was originally promised? YUP.

So – the point I’m trying to make is that communicating and being honest with your expectations can just make most situations easier to deal with. Had I been more direct from the beginning about how long it would reasonably take to get my order, I wouldn’t have been freaking out over the thought of someone stealing my money. Brandon and Maryland Speed fulfilled my order completely at a price I’ve not seen for these headers for 10-years. I didn’t get a special discount or treatment in any way. I was a regular customer to him at purchase. I bet everyone gets the same treatment I do. Will I give him more business? Yes. Will I change the way I order from him? Yes – I will be asking more questions about availability and expected ETAs. Do I think he tries to be deceiving or dishonest? No. I do not. I don’t know exactly how he offers the prices he does, but I know that you can’t have those kinds of discounts for free. Would I have paid more for those headers? Nope. I didn’t want them enough to pay for more. Did I think I waited too long to get them? No. It would’ve been easier to know it could take this long but sometimes you just can’t forecast these things. Nothing’s free. If the price is more important than the wait, Maryland Speed deserves consideration for your next purchase, IMHO.

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Old 02-14-2018, 03:56 PM   #2
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I had a similar experience with them but I only waited about 6 weeks so it was definitely worth it for the incredibly low price. They need to be more open about how long it could take. The disclaimer does not convey how long it could take and also does not help for phone orders.
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Old 02-15-2018, 09:02 AM   #3
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Good post, pretty much exactly my experience. Manage expectations.
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:23 PM   #4
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Your a saint for waiting so long!!! I waited 3 months and called it quits couldn’t deal with the vendors attitude towards the purchase. No amount of savings on the planet is worth dealing with them... Glad you got your product but I would IN NO WAY ENDORSE THEM!
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:33 PM   #5
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I'm in no way saying that my experience is for everyone, or what I was expecting or planning for. I AM a pretty patient person when I want/need to be, but it did take a lot out of me. I assure you I didn't want to wait that long, but the price made it worth it in my situation. I know that it doesn't justify it for everyone, but I knew I needed to add my $.02. I can assure you I'm no saint, though, LOL.

I wish they were more open but I can imagine they'd either scare off too many customers from the wait or just having to be too vague on ETA, or they are at the whim of their distributors and their prices. I imagine the prices could ebb and flow like the tide. But again - I really don't know because it's not necessarily my business to know.

I should also add no one at MS asked me to write this review. I'm not sure it's necessarily positive, but it IS my intent to stress that I really don't think they're trying to piss people off. I maintain, like a post above, that a more realistic ETA or disclaimer would be helpful probably, but how many people still read those nowadays?... At any rate - I wrote this on my own accord. I didn't ask for nor have I received a discount or anything. This review is completely unsolicited from anyone.

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Old 02-15-2018, 05:45 PM   #6
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Interesting read. I don’t have any plans to mod my car at all at this point, but a “how long have you been waiting/did it take to get your maryland speed order” poll might help set expectations for the community here.
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:54 PM   #7
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Thanks Chuck... you absolutely nailed it with this one. Most are definitely not going to put up with that kind of wait, but I definitely knew MS was not going to scam anywone. Just a bad business model for most. I dropped almost 7k on a Camaro Fifty watch that I had to wait an entire year for when I expected 4 months at the most. I started getting a bit upset about month #9 and you can only imagine my frustration there. It is a bad ass watch though LOL.

Thanks for taking the time to post this.
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Old 02-15-2018, 06:16 PM   #8
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I won’t ever order from them. I heard too many stories...
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Old 02-15-2018, 06:58 PM   #9
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You know I was not entirely patient through my wait, Mike, HAHAHA. Like you said though - I got what I ordered. I had nothing to complain about, considering your wait and money though, LOL!!!

Yeah - there are lots of stories. And you know - people will complain a lot more and a lot faster than they will drop a positive line. Maybe mine wasn't positive exactly, but I got what I paid for which is what I wanted to focus on. I'm not trying to start an argument but just leave as positive/honest a note as reasonable.
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I did not manage my expectations well. I was not prepared to be lied to continuously for 4 months about delivery time. I'm sure the whole thing was my fault.....
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I did not manage my expectations well. I was not prepared to be lied to continuously for 4 months about delivery time. I'm sure the whole thing was my fault.....


You are definitely at fault! Silly you for putting faith in Them.

The problem is Negative reviews get deleted cause they have the consumer by the balls
with there money. Good luck hope you can endure or get your refund. I found facebook groups worked the best at getting a result from them.


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Old 03-05-2018, 09:18 PM   #12
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Good to know about MS. My break point is less than 1 month, and even then, that's way too long. When I want it, I want it...

My opinion - they should charge more. There really should be no need for bad publicity or "adjusting expectations" . Sell to those that have the $$, ship quick and move on... it seems like way too much stress / aggravation delaying the process in search of a "good deal" (on both sides).
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Old 03-12-2018, 09:51 AM   #14
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You are definitely at fault! Silly you for putting faith in Them.

The problem is Negative reviews get deleted cause they have the consumer by the balls
with there money. Good luck hope you can endure or get your refund. I found facebook groups worked the best at getting a result from them.


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I found calling my credit card company to be the best option. 1 5 minute call all my prob elms were over and MS got slapped with charge-back fees. I'd call it a small victory for the good guys.
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