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Drives: '13 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2017
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The Y went from $50k to $48k for taking in stock car, and still had a $3k and 7.5k rebates. $38k for a well proven design with no dealer ripoffs buying the whole thing online not stuck in front of one desk to the other forcing a ripoff on you. Or wait for $52k Equinox and hope for some rebate to offset additional ripoffs the dealer. racerx youtube guy posted about his new Demon170 engine blowing along with all the massive BS dealers have put him through. A changed engine in a collectors interest car is like having a big accident on its records, devalue. Not to mention now that a few have blown is it really the top dog now? Fastest car in the world except a stock grampa's S Plaid sedan outruns it at far cheaper price in the real world. This video is a long winded guy about his 4+yr 100k mi experience with a Tesla 3. I'll save you the time he only replaced a $10 seat switch and $400 oil circulation pump for the rear motor/diff in 100k mi plus worn suspension at $1k. He estimated $2k spent on electricity BEV vs $15k in ICE fuel if he had to buy it at UK prices. It had similar depreciation to a similar ICE car. Many comments by people driving up to 188k mi without problems. A few problems mentioned out of hundreds of thousands sold. A very few battery replacements but relative to how many sold and the fact they keep improving the batteries even mid year it's not common now, also how did they treat them? Fully charged and left sitting in hot weather beats them down. IIRC the heat pump has been updated and suspension to eliminate a failure point. Don't know about the power steering pump a few have had problems with. The China made 3Performance battery might be a bad trend like the Demon170 engines. The only thing I learned was tire life can be as good as any other car if you don't beat on it's performance. People getting 47k mi out of them. There were a few trolls in the comments section repeating FUD aka BS. Edit: Here is some info on 2017-2021 power steering problem solved with OTA software update, Don't know if that resolved it but I don't really see any trends on late model Ys. https://www.consumerreports.org/cars...m-a4893117329/ I might add IDK if I would buy a BEV with intentions of trading it in or selling it within a few years of ownership. Because of dropping BEV retail prices and many peoples fear of them used markets are still more uncertain for many dealers. I never lease but BEVs are getting crazy low lease offers now and I would go that route except I intend to keep mine longer than that. More of racerx talking about proposed FTC rules to stop the dealer BS Last edited by silversleeper; Today at 09:22 AM. |
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Today, 09:56 AM | #2005 | |
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Drives: 2017 Camaro Fifty SS Convertible Join Date: Mar 2017
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The $10k EVs that everyone talks about are A segment and B-segment vehicles for the domestic Chinese market only. You can’t even buy an A-Segment car in the US anymore. If you could it would be something akin to the Smart car. A B-segment would be something like the Chevrolet Sonic.
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Today, 10:14 AM | #2006 |
Drives: 2023 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: United States
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Fact is, things are a little craftier than just BYD hoping to dump cheap cars here.
GM already sells vehicles in the US which were built in China. And I hate them for it, it's absolute betrayal. Ford is following suit. Lincoln Nautilus? Hot off the container ship. Volvo, after its partnership with Geely in the Polestar venture, will now manufacture its own EV's in China and import them to the US. Cheap EV's already have an inroad. Were it not for tax incentives to source and manufacture in North America (Thank you, Biden), you know GM would be leveraging its Chinese EV manufacturing--which is already in place--to bring us cheap EV's....would they not? |
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