[NASTY99Z28]

Originally Posted by DrkPhx

I honestly thought it would be closer to 550 hp, but still not bad numbers. You can help the low end with aggressive trans and rear end gears which I have to be are aggressive because the car has the gas guzzler tax. Also consider this thing is still well over 500 hp at the red line. That's pretty bad ass imo and I'm sure it revs super fast with great throttle response. That is a recipe for a great track motor. Let's see what it does on the track.

Yeah it holds over 500hp for a long time.

[BoostedX2]

I believe the performance variant (1LE, Z28) will compete favorably with the gt350....but I want a rev happy motor..so if GM does not have a special NA motor (ala LS7) I will be looking hard at the gt350, in a base car...especially at the 50K price point.

[BoostedX2]

I already have a track capable high hp Zl1...now I want a hi rev screamer..come on GM!!

[khell86]

Originally Posted by LesserO2Evils

Idk what reaction YOU have seen but over on Mustang6inchesinThePill.com, they are even concerned. "Broad powerband"? Did you even SEE the dynosheet!?
Will a stock 16 SS beat it in 1/4? Incredibly doubtful. But it wont be a trouncing. Esp factoring a sizeable price difference and all the hype Ford has blown out there bout this car. Few mods- I say, yes. The Z28!? That will be decimation.

With the HP advantage it'll have and the weight advantage, we're looking at a good .4 to .5 difference in 1/4 times with everything being equal between the SS and the GT350.

The torque will be handled by gearing, thats how all companies handle high reving engines. The boss is the perfect example.

With the Z28 it would most likely be a drivers race in the 1/4. The track will be interesting. I'm excited to see the comparos.

[Design1stCode2nd]

Some of us like a high revving engine, the GT350 is the closest competitor to a e9x series M3. I'll definitely look at one before I buy a new car.

[SpeedIsLife]

It looks like it delivers peak TQ at 4,750 and holds over 400 for the rest of the range..

Not quite as stratospheric as some were making it sound

[Doomsday]

Originally Posted by Design1stCode2nd

Some of us like a high revving engine, the GT350 is the closest competitor to a e9x series M3. I'll definitely look at one before I buy a new car.

Mehhh. BMW engines have no torque, unless boosted.

[IOMike]

Originally Posted by chain777

It's amazing how different the reaction is here compared to anywhere else. So you think the numbers aren't impressive, the high revs are a joke, and the LT1SS is going to be all you need to match it. Remember how badly the Boss beat the SS in the quarter? That was with 82 less horsepower and 49 fewer torques. The weight will be within a hundred pounds or so and the R will probably be lighter than the Boss.

I think your under-estimating the benefits of high revs and a broad power-band in an engine designed for the track. It's not just the peak numbers that matter.

I'm sure it will be faster than a gen6 SS. But on the street, from a stop light, a A8 SS has a good chance.

I'm just underwhelmed for 50k with no options. The SS will perform closer to this starting at 35k than it will to a GT PP. No one thinks the SS will out perform a GT350, but it's scary for Ford how close it will be when it's supposed to compete with a GT.

[LesserO2Evils]

Originally Posted by IOMike

I'm sure it will be faster than a gen6 SS. But on the street, from a stop light, a A8 SS has a good chance.

I'm just underwhelmed for 50k with no options. The SS will perform closer to this starting at 35k than it will to a GT PP. No one thinks the SS will out perform a GT350, but it's scary for Ford how close it will be when it's supposed to compete with a GT.

Thats what I was getting at.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by khell86

With the HP advantage it'll have and the weight advantage, we're looking at a good .4 to .5 difference in 1/4 times with everything being equal between the SS and the GT350.

The torque will be handled by gearing, thats how all companies handle high reving engines. The boss is the perfect example.

With the Z28 it would most likely be a drivers race in the 1/4. The track will be interesting. I'm excited to see the comparos.

This (and the Z/28) are track cars. As a street car I'd think the relatively low torque and need to keep it over 4,000 RPM would get tiring. With a $49,995 MSRP for the base street version there might be better choices. All in with the R sounds like the way to go.

Ford has previously built lighter, more powerful track cars than Chevy only to fail. Will this be the one to beat the gen5 Z/28? What about what's next for Chev?

[68fbjjz109]

Originally Posted by 13vertss/r's

Ford said the R is 130lbs lighter then a track pack GT350. My guess is the gt350 TP will come in at 3750lbs and the R will be about 3620lbs.

Unfortunetly we don't know enough about the GT350 Lightweighting.

The lightest base GT was 3593. Vorslag weighed a GT PP Premium at 3718.

The GT350 porks on weight in Tires, wheels, and Brakes. All which help it go fast.

It looses weight in CFPP Front end Module, Aluminum Front Bumper, Aluminum Rear Bumper (R), no beauty covers, Engine, Trans. Unfortunately I don't have many contacts at Ford Mostly at GM and FCA. I hear it's fast, but no one is refuting that. But how fast is fast? Well know soon enough just like the 6genSS, super excited actually as I might get a ride in a 6gen soonish.

This being said I think it will coming in around 3650.

[blacks550gt]

Originally Posted by 68fbjjz109

Unfortunetly we don't know enough about the GT350 Lightweighting.

The lightest base GT was 3593. Vorslag weighed a GT PP Premium at 3718.

The GT350 porks on weight in Tires, wheels, and Brakes. All which help it go fast.

It looses weight in CFPP Front end Module, Aluminum Front Bumper, Aluminum Rear Bumper (R), no beauty covers, Engine, Trans. Unfortunately I don't have many contacts at Ford Mostly at GM and FCA. I hear it's fast, but no one is refuting that. But how fast is fast? Well know soon enough just like the 6genSS, super excited actually as I might get a ride in a 6gen soonish.

This being said I think it will coming in around 3650.

That's a good weight estimate for the base gt350. Also, I remember reading somewhere that the brakes are lighter than the pp brembos. As well as the wheels compared to the pp wheels.

[13vertss]

Originally Posted by 68fbjjz109

Unfortunetly we don't know enough about the GT350 Lightweighting.

The lightest base GT was 3593. Vorslag weighed a GT PP Premium at 3718.

The GT350 porks on weight in Tires, wheels, and Brakes. All which help it go fast.

It looses weight in CFPP Front end Module, Aluminum Front Bumper, Aluminum Rear Bumper (R), no beauty covers, Engine, Trans. Unfortunately I don't have many contacts at Ford Mostly at GM and FCA. I hear it's fast, but no one is refuting that. But how fast is fast? Well know soon enough just like the 6genSS, super excited actually as I might get a ride in a 6gen soonish.

This being said I think it will coming in around 3650.

You have to remember Vorslag car was on empty with gas and all his trunk junk was out. So that 3593 is not even close to curb weight. It was the same with the premium. You can add at least 100lbs to both to get curb weight.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by 13vertss/r's

You have to remember Vorslag car was on empty with gas and all his trunk junk was out. So that 3593 is not even close to curb weight. It was the same with the premium. You can add at least 100lbs to both to get curb weight.

True . The differences are right about the weight of a full tank lol.

I don't get everyone going around claiming they know the weight of the car better than the people who built it ( ford ). And why in gods name would they want it to appear heavier?

A base 2015 mustang gt manual lightest possible option with a full tank of gas and all fluids topped off nothing taken out of the car is 3705 lbs. Curb weights mean full tank of gas/ fluids/ equipment.
And the manufacturers list the base car. It's always been this way.

Shipping weights, private owner ... Blah blah....any weight not reflecting fords is a result of scales being off, user error or fluids/ gas not full. Or it's just plain bullshit/ lie.

Never understood the obsession.

The 2015 mustang is a 3700 lb car stripped and over 3800 loaded. They need to accept it and move on. It's also painfully obvious with no strait line accel gains over last year with a 15 hp gain. They are actually slower from the research I've done.

I never once tried weighing my 2010 to try and prove otherwise/ lie to myself.
Some people lol