03-17-2020, 02:42 PM | #6777 |
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It was me that listed all the stuff an LT1 can have and still appear 100% stock. I can also list the LS1 mods from "free mods" to max stealth builds. I'm sure the Mustang is the same way. My tag line used to say "fastest stock ones ain't". Given tracks, track conditions and the mods people except as stock and the mods that can be done to stock cars give little credence to any claim of "stock" whatever when are talking about the fastest one. Even the factory has provided known ringers: Pontiac, GS stage 1, GNX, 383 Road Runner, not tested but mod from the factory GLH-S, Shelby 427. I'll just take 1 example, just about every "fastest car" muscle car lists the Cobra at 12.2. I does do that but that is the race version, or race fuel, or special race only (throw them away after the test) tires, prototype that was returned to Shelby as "undrivable", sold again and quickly proceeded to kill its next owner. A production Shelby if you could call any production, and if you were lucky enough to get an actual 427 (not a 428), and if it actually ran correctly, on true production street tires clocked at 13.2, still fast. Pontiac was far worst.
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LOL, I've been off the deep end for a while now.
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03-17-2020, 06:10 PM | #6780 |
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There are two kinds of racers, cheaters and losers, take your pick.
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03-17-2020, 06:15 PM | #6781 | |
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03-17-2020, 08:32 PM | #6782 |
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My information was incorrect. They are not shutting down facilities. They are enhancing precautions to protect their workers against the virus spread. So their should hopefully be no further delays.
However I still think it is stupid for these guys to be trashing early VIN 2020 MY C8s. They are gonna have limited production numbers and will be the scarcest MY. So that alone might add to their valone if it's been beaten to Hell already. |
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03-18-2020, 10:49 AM | #6784 | |
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03-18-2020, 10:55 AM | #6785 | |
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That's not how modern Vettes are being produced. The ONLY modern Corvette to have a similar scenario is the 1 year only 2019 ZR1. If I were a betting man, my money is on the ZR1 holding value more than any other production Corvette in the last 40 years.
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03-18-2020, 11:01 AM | #6786 | |
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03-18-2020, 11:03 AM | #6787 | |
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Also they didn't get the Evan treatment, mostly seems like inexperienced dudes having fun and running their cars.
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2019 Mustang GT pp1 - svt pp2 wheels, mbrp cat back, sync 3 upgrade, p1x procharger + stg2 intercooler. 2018 Colorado zr2 - zr2 sport bar, showcase spare tire. 2018 Camaro SS 1LE - GM cai, black bowties, suede knee bolsters, 1le plate frame, black fuel door, dark tails + 3rd brake light, euro side markers + led's, GM all weather floor mats, velossatech big mouth, GM strut brace. 2017 Corvette Grandsport (sold) - untouched. 2006 GTO (sold) - iat relocation, air box mod, monero side marker lights. |
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03-18-2020, 11:05 AM | #6788 |
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Look at the GT350. The seemed pretty disappointing over at M6G when used ones started dipping into the low 40k mark.
The only modern cars that will hold value (let alone increase) are 300k+ exotics made in limited numbers.
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03-18-2020, 11:06 AM | #6789 | |
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I've had this exact argument with the ford trolls claiming all gt500s are 10.7 cars like stangmodes "stock" gt500 amd ignoring all the stock AND tuned gt500s that were runninh 11s at the strip.
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2000 Miata - aventi storm wheels, roll bar.
2019 Mustang GT pp1 - svt pp2 wheels, mbrp cat back, sync 3 upgrade, p1x procharger + stg2 intercooler. 2018 Colorado zr2 - zr2 sport bar, showcase spare tire. 2018 Camaro SS 1LE - GM cai, black bowties, suede knee bolsters, 1le plate frame, black fuel door, dark tails + 3rd brake light, euro side markers + led's, GM all weather floor mats, velossatech big mouth, GM strut brace. 2017 Corvette Grandsport (sold) - untouched. 2006 GTO (sold) - iat relocation, air box mod, monero side marker lights. |
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2019 Mustang GT pp1 - svt pp2 wheels, mbrp cat back, sync 3 upgrade, p1x procharger + stg2 intercooler. 2018 Colorado zr2 - zr2 sport bar, showcase spare tire. 2018 Camaro SS 1LE - GM cai, black bowties, suede knee bolsters, 1le plate frame, black fuel door, dark tails + 3rd brake light, euro side markers + led's, GM all weather floor mats, velossatech big mouth, GM strut brace. 2017 Corvette Grandsport (sold) - untouched. 2006 GTO (sold) - iat relocation, air box mod, monero side marker lights. |
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