04-16-2021, 10:51 AM | #29 |
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Sure but it seems no one likes SAE numbers and its confusing to people that don't know the difference. I know its only about 3% difference but most don't know that.
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04-16-2021, 11:26 AM | #30 | |
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I raced 700cid and 500cid engines from 2006 to 2011 and learned from Sonny Leonard and David Nickens to correct all of our runs back to SAE Standard, otherwise you don't really know how well your car's performing.
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04-16-2021, 11:37 AM | #31 | |
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04-16-2021, 11:48 AM | #32 | |
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STD means the pre-1999 SAE correction to conditions of 29.92 InHg (103.3 kPa) of dry air and 60 F (15.5°C). SAE means the current CF which will produce 3-4% less power than STD. There's also foreign factors such N, EE, and other CF. I just spoke with Dynojet to confirm this.
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'20 ZL1 1LE A10,
OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. Last edited by JSH; 04-16-2021 at 12:17 PM. |
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04-16-2021, 01:13 PM | #33 | |
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JSH, you really sound like a babbling baboon. ZOH6 Knows what hes talking about. Shops either spit out dyno numbers inSAE J1349 77F or STD 60F, higher pressure colder air = higher numbers. (these are the 2 standards every shop i know, been to, or seen online use) No one uses other crazy formulas like your saying. Stop causing even more confusion to people that are actually new to this and trying to figure it out. Your just making things more difficult. Also.. I highly doubt your calling dynojet for something so stupid like this... All your doing is copying and paste old posts your finding on google in here, because Ive found everyone you posted exactly....
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04-16-2021, 09:20 PM | #34 |
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Ok fellas back on track, I currently have the Mamo Throttle Body V2 what would I gain going with a larger non stock throttle body if anything? and would it require a tune?
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04-16-2021, 09:44 PM | #35 |
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With your mods in your signature, probably not much, maybe just a little with a 95mm LT5 TB. If you add headers and a ported blower then I would go ahead and replace the TB with a Nick Williams 103mm.
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04-16-2021, 10:22 PM | #36 |
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I called Dynojet assuming you would come after me again on this just as you have a dozen times on numerous topics since last year when you saw I have a Hennessey car. My last post was our conversation verbatim.
I agree the factors I posted for the old SAE STD correction are all over the web because everyone except you knows them. And I've already posted the currently used SAE CF procedures. STD is pre-1999 SAE should be the current SAE correction. Several foreign countries use different CF methods. You're welcome in advance for teaching you a little about CF. Please stop following me around this site. You're a nuisance and just a simpleton Hennessey hater running your mouth about things you really don't understand and hating people who do.
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OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next. |
04-16-2021, 11:18 PM | #37 | |
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I'm not following you around nor am I a Hennesey hater, but when you constantly post incorrect information your going to be corrected by me and many others on this forum if you continue to do so. You've posted wrong info about whats needed to hit 800rwhp. You said CSP uses a wrong/invalid SAE correction factor. You argue and make up arguments as to how Hennessey uses everything right and no one else does. There's dozens more. When you first came to this form you asked a tons of newbie questions, now all of a sudden your an expert. If you post false info and your debated on it, its not my fault. Simply stop giving bad advice.
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04-17-2021, 12:28 PM | #38 |
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Jesus F*ck. Can yall just take it to PM already. Worse than 2 15 year olds fighting over a chick cause you might see a tit.
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04-17-2021, 02:02 PM | #39 |
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SAE all day! Shows a lower number but more accurate.
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04-17-2021, 05:52 PM | #40 |
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04-17-2021, 06:28 PM | #41 | |
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Says the Italian driving an IROC....
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04-17-2021, 07:10 PM | #42 |
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Ported. Blower
I have a 2017 zl1. Base tune at CSP was 604whp. That was with a Mamo tb and a air box. After Kong ported blower and tune car made 625whp. Added headers and no cats car made 631whp.outside Temps were close. Added heads and cam. All done at CSP car made 725whp Car drives like stock. Cannot thank the guys at CSP enough. I just wonder about all the big hp gains I see talked about
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