Poll- who had a failed oil pump on their Camaro? - Page 34

SteveV · 07-01-2020, 10:43 AM

They did mine without removing the motor.

IneedAZ · 07-02-2020, 05:09 AM

How much time do u think it adds to a cam change job doing the pump if still in car?

SteveV · 07-02-2020, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by IneedAZ

How much time do u think it adds to a cam change job doing the pump if still in car?

Since you have to disassemble the front of the engine to do both, one would think it would not add more than 20 or 30min of time.

L78toLT1 · 07-02-2020, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveV

Since you have to disassemble the front of the engine to do both, one would think it would not add more than 20 or 30min of time.

If you drop the pan, this^ is correct. Some guys have managed to snake the timing chain off without dropping the pan and removing the pump.

IneedAZ · 07-02-2020, 08:30 AM

thanks for the replies. Reason i asked is the shop that might be doing the cam was telling me its a lot of extra work and in turn a lot more money.

DemonZL1 · 07-02-2020, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by IneedAZ

thanks for the replies. Reason i asked is the shop that might be doing the cam was telling me its a lot of extra work and in turn a lot more money.

It is, because the lifters are on top of the cam, it doesn't just slide out with the oil pump out of the way. The chain is also behind the bump. In addition, you have the fuel pump on top that is riding on the cam.

IneedAZ · 07-02-2020, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CarbonZLE

It is, because the lifters are on top of the cam, it doesn't just slide out with the oil pump out of the way. The chain is also behind the bump. In addition, you have the fuel pump on top that is riding on the cam.

In my post i am referring to the fact they want to charge me extra to remove the oil pump when they change my cam. I want the oil pump replaced with latest part number while they are in there.

DemonZL1 · 07-03-2020, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by IneedAZ

In my post i am referring to the fact they want to charge me extra to remove the oil pump when they change my cam. I want the oil pump replaced with latest part number while they are in there.

Ah, I see. Yeah I misunderstood.

If they are changing the chain, it’s no additional labor because the pump has to come off. If they are not replacing the chain, then I would be concerned.

GRUF78 · 07-05-2020, 06:13 PM

FYI....

Wife's 2018 ZLI 1LE M6, 6300 miles. Impeccably maintained. Oil pressure went to zero after running normal RPM for 10 minutes then to idle. Shut down immediately. Oil level full.

Car build date 10/17. Off to dealer tomorrow PM.

bmlocal175 · 07-06-2020, 02:06 PM

With the holiday weekend just got the phone call...Oil pump, no engine damage, waiting on parts.

I know nothing about engines so I'm assuming they can check parts of the engine without it running to verify no damage? I saw the turn engine off notice and literally rolled a few hundred feet into my friends driveway and turned it off. Maybe if the pump exploded and pieces went into the engine it would be a different story.

Alponcho · 07-06-2020, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bmlocal175

...Glad it's over. Been reading about this for months and it finally happened. Worried about driving it to far and being stuck somewhere.

I kind of feel the same way about my 8/17 built ZL1. The rate of failure is higher than it should be, but still pretty low, and it's covered under warranty, so probably not rational to stress about it too much, especially if the car stays local. My concern is on trips when I'm hours away home--waiting for a tow and having to find a rental car can be a real pain! I've thought about purchasing the latest version of the oil pump and changing it myself (or paying someone to do it), but I'm concerned this might give the dealer an excuse to void the engine warranty if something else were to happen or the pump fails again.

ZX-10R · 07-06-2020, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bmlocal175

With the holiday weekend just got the phone call...no engine damage.

Of course they're going to say this but I wonder how they really know

JasonSB · 07-06-2020, 02:54 PM

I have set up a time to get the pump replaced by a local shop. I don't want to worry about it any longer and being modded, I'm sure GM will blame it on the mods if it does go and not warranty it.

Alponcho · 07-06-2020, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ZX-10R

Of course they're going to say this but I wonder how they really know

GM should extend the engine warranty with the repair to give owners peace of mind after a repair like that. I can't recall the exact details, but I believe BMW extended the 4yr/50k mile warranty on my 02 M3 to 6yr/100k miles when they replaced the rod bearings (service campaign) after only driving 2k miles. That made me feel better about the car.

View Poll Results: Who has experienced an oil pump failure?
2016 or earlier	20	13.79%
2017	53	36.55%
2018	67	46.21%
2019	2	1.38%
2020	2	1.38%
2021	1	0.69%
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07-01-2020, 10:43 AM	#463
SteveV Drives: 2018 ZL1 Camaro 6M Red Hot Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,137 View My Garage	They did mine without removing the motor. __________________ People are a lot like slinky's: not very helpful most of the time, but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs...

07-02-2020, 05:09 AM	#464
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,110 View My Garage	How much time do u think it adds to a cam change job doing the pump if still in car? __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive

07-02-2020, 08:30 AM	#467
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,110 View My Garage	thanks for the replies. Reason i asked is the shop that might be doing the cam was telling me its a lot of extra work and in turn a lot more money. __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive

07-05-2020, 06:13 PM	#471
GRUF78 Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: TX Posts: 14	Another failed oil pump FYI.... Wife's 2018 ZLI 1LE M6, 6300 miles. Impeccably maintained. Oil pressure went to zero after running normal RPM for 10 minutes then to idle. Shut down immediately. Oil level full. Car build date 10/17. Off to dealer tomorrow PM.

07-06-2020, 02:06 PM	#472
bmlocal175 Drives: 2018 ZL1 Black M6 PDR Join Date: May 2017 Location: NY Posts: 103	With the holiday weekend just got the phone call...Oil pump, no engine damage, waiting on parts. I know nothing about engines so I'm assuming they can check parts of the engine without it running to verify no damage? I saw the turn engine off notice and literally rolled a few hundred feet into my friends driveway and turned it off. Maybe if the pump exploded and pieces went into the engine it would be a different story.

07-06-2020, 02:54 PM	#475
JasonSB Drives: 2018 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 83	I have set up a time to get the pump replaced by a local shop. I don't want to worry about it any longer and being modded, I'm sure GM will blame it on the mods if it does go and not warranty it. __________________ 2018 ZL1 A10 - Rotofab Intake, LT5 TB, TSP Headers, ATI Balancer, 9.1 Lower Pulley, JMS BAP, Flex Fuel.

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