[Silveradoss573]

Originally Posted by CamaroSSStlfan

How do you expect to have sales if the dealers don't want to carry the car on the lot while the large ford dealer has 12 different Mustang GTs sitting on their lot or the Dodge dealer has 6 Scatpacks sitting there similar priced to the 2SS and similar performance numbers.

Why would some dealers stock up on camaro's when they struggle to sell them? My local dealer back during the 5th gen run had on average 2 zl1 camaros one a coupe the other a vert. They had 3-5 SS models with various options. Always had a few V6 models as well. And every now and then "the less known to the general public" at the time 1LE. On avg they would have around 8-10 or so camaro's on the lot at all times. Why??? Becuase they sold. For the past handful of years, they avg 3 or less. Why??? Because they they can't sell them like they use too. If a dealer struggles to move a certain product, why spend the money on a floor plan on that product? They don't and put units on the lot that they can move.

[CamaroSSStlfan]

Originally Posted by Silveradoss573

Why would some dealers stock up on camaro's when they struggle to sell them? My local dealer back during the 5th gen run had on average 2 zl1 camaros one a coupe the other a vert. They had 3-5 SS models with various options. Always had a few V6 models as well. And every now and then "the less known to the general public" at the time 1LE. On avg they would have around 8-10 or so camaro's on the lot at all times. Why??? Becuase they sold. For the past handful of years, they avg 3 or less. Why??? Because they they can't sell them like they use too. If a dealer struggles to move a certain product, why spend the money on a floor plan on that product? They don't and put units on the lot that they can move.

I think the gas issue might be a reason too now. Since the Camaro V8 models take the premium it's becoming a lot more pricey to fill up. My area of FL the premium, 93 octane (don't carry 91) is about $3.55 or so a gallon right now while regular is about $2.95.


The same can be said for the Ford dealers around me in a 60 mile radius. They don't carry very many Mustangs at all. usually will just have one on the lot since we have a lot of elderly people they like the SUVs, vans, and large sedans.


But 30 miles south of me is the largest Ford dealer in the area. They carry a lot of Mustangs. The ironic thing is as of a couple weeks ago they still have 2020 Mustang GTs for sale and had the prices reduced below MSRP which is shocking for what's going on right now. They still couldn't unload the left over ones. They also had a selection of 2021 in addition that were not moving fast.


I think all across the board if gas keeps going up you're going to see sales slump even more for these V8 cars.


I haven't seen the numbers for the 400z yet. The car looks pretty nice and isn't going to help Camaro sales as well.


The V6 and 4 cylinder Camaro models seem to sell a lot better. The dealers carry a lot of 1LTs new and used on their lots compared to the SS


A lot of people in the general public don't care about the 0-60 times, quarter mile, modding their car to get an extra .2 seconds. They like the style of the car and don't care about getting knocked back in their seat.

[Hops]

while these sales numbers aren't good of course... i think how different manufacturers have dealt with the chip shortage has been model specific. I think used pricing should also be considered when looking at demand.

[redcoats1976]

the V8 cars have been the minority of sales even in the early 5th gen days.0-60 in 6 seconds or less is fine for most people and they dont feel the need to spend the extra money for the V8s,then pay an extra fee every time they fill up.

[zaimer]

Originally Posted by CamaroSSStlfan

I think the gas issue might be a reason too now. Since the Camaro V8 models take the premium it's becoming a lot more pricey to fill up. My area of FL the premium, 93 octane (don't carry 91) is about $3.55 or so a gallon right now while regular is about $2.95.


The same can be said for the Ford dealers around me in a 60 mile radius. They don't carry very many Mustangs at all. usually will just have one on the lot since we have a lot of elderly people they like the SUVs, vans, and large sedans.


But 30 miles south of me is the largest Ford dealer in the area. They carry a lot of Mustangs. The ironic thing is as of a couple weeks ago they still have 2020 Mustang GTs for sale and had the prices reduced below MSRP which is shocking for what's going on right now. They still couldn't unload the left over ones. They also had a selection of 2021 in addition that were not moving fast.


I think all across the board if gas keeps going up you're going to see sales slump even more for these V8 cars.


I haven't seen the numbers for the 400z yet. The car looks pretty nice and isn't going to help Camaro sales as well.


The V6 and 4 cylinder Camaro models seem to sell a lot better. The dealers carry a lot of 1LTs new and used on their lots compared to the SS


A lot of people in the general public don't care about the 0-60 times, quarter mile, modding their car to get an extra .2 seconds. They like the style of the car and don't care about getting knocked back in their seat.

I can appreciate penny-pinching, but if a person is all that concerned about spending an extra >$1 per gallon, perhaps that person is driving the wrong vehicle. If you can't "afford" the extra for premium gas, then you shouldn't be able to afford the extra oil required at oil changes, the higher priced tires, etc.; you can't afford the car then. Regardless, the Camaro (NA V8) is excellent in terms of gas mileage, when driven conservatively, IMO. My car now is MUCH more of a fuel hog.

[Invertalon]

Originally Posted by zaimer

I can appreciate penny-pinching, but if a person is all that concerned about spending an extra >$1 per gallon, perhaps that person is driving the wrong vehicle. If you can't "afford" the extra for premium gas, then you shouldn't be able to afford the extra oil required at oil changes, the higher priced tires, etc.; you can't afford the car then. Regardless, the Camaro (NA V8) is excellent in terms of gas mileage, when driven conservatively, IMO. My car now is MUCH more of a fuel hog.

This, exactly.

It's crazy to read about people complaining about gas prices, oil changes and other maintenance items when they knew damn well buying this car what those costs would be.

[FarmerFran]

I do not talk about mpg anymore. It is BAD lol

[Puddin]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

I do not talk about mpg anymore. It is BAD lol

Yeah Fran you gotta feed that big ol boat.

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by Puddin

Yeah Fran you gotta feed that big ol boat.

I am netting an amazing 16mpg city. I do have a heavy foot though, well and a heavy car

[zaimer]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

I do not talk about mpg anymore. It is BAD lol

Don't remind me. I think mine burns fuel when I look at it. Though I haven't driven it much, other than the way home (currently sitting with >100 miles on her). My order finally arrived and I was able to take delivery on 07/01..

[Dave777]

I do believe if the Camaro had bigger windows more people would like the looks of the car = more sales.

[rocket403]

Here is a Recent Commercial from Dodge



Could Dodge Challenger outsell the Mustang this year? Dodge is Cleaning up with a 15 year old platform gaining on the Mustang with their options power and advertising keeping their product at the forefront. Guess going out with a bang with the big engines and power before a remodel and add a electric model if the rumors' are to be believed.

[Modernmusclecar]

Boy theres alot of posts about why the 6th gen Camaro isn't selling. No backseat...hard to see out of...gas prices. The 6th gen hasn't sold all that well since 2016. Its the car.. thats it. For whatever reason its not something people want. And face it...nobody knows exactly why.

[jamala00]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

I do not talk about mpg anymore. It is BAD lol

LOL the two vehicles I swap between are my 2SS and an '18 Tahoe. The 2SS gets the better gas mileage of the two and I certainly am not bragging about it. I do not buy vehicles for gas mileage, I buy them for enjoyment. If I was concerned about it, I'd by a Prius.

Most people that complain about gas prices are the same people who will go through Starbucks and pay $6 for a stupid cup of horrible coffee.