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Old 11-18-2021, 06:41 PM   #1
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Need all audio replacement info on 2017 w/Bose system

I am trying to do a full audio replacement with some amazing components, I already have 2- 12 inch subs, focal drivers, JL amps and JL 8x8 DSP but need to know best And least expensive options for Bose amp bypass, front dash max size speakers , etc. Please help I wanna make this a complete with pics, end all -be all for gen 6 Camaro with Bose thread.

If this already exists please forgive the post and point me in the right direction ( I have tried to search)...thanks guys!
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Old 11-19-2021, 08:35 AM   #2
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Integration: https://navtv.com/products/NTV-KIT838/m650-gm.html
Dash Speakers: without any cutting you can fit the Audiofrog GS25, Morel CCWR254 or CDT Unity 8.0
Door Speakers: Audiofrog GS690, CDT CL69 or any other 6x9 you fancy. You can also fit any 6.5" midbass using a 6x9=>6 adapter.
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Old 11-19-2021, 09:07 AM   #3
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Is NAVTV adapter that much better than PAC AP4-GM61?

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Dash Speakers: without any cutting you can fit the Audiofrog GS25, Morel CCWR254 or CDT Unity 8.0
Door Speakers: Audiofrog GS690, CDT CL69 or any other 6x9 you fancy. You can also fit any 6.5" midbass using a 6x9=>6 adapter.

Thanks for your response..
1.Is NAVTV adapter that much better than PAC AP4-GM61?
2. How large a woofer can be put in the rear side panels? I am hoping an 8" woofer would fit.. or at least a 7" anarchy woofer
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Old 11-20-2021, 05:15 AM   #4
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I'm really not sure if the NavTv is better...just what I've used. The PAC is less expensive and I know many people on here have used it.
The rear quarter speakers are 6.5" so you should be able to fit the Anarchy with a bit of work. Those are great midbass speakers.
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Old 11-21-2021, 05:25 AM   #5
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Here is another option for you, better than the PAC
https://www.diymobileaudio.com/threa.../#post-5977616
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Old 11-22-2021, 08:16 PM   #6
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I replied to him, this looks like a great option! hope it is still available..

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Here is another option for you, better than the PAC
https://www.diymobileaudio.com/threa.../#post-5977616
I replied to him, this looks like a great option! hope it is still available..
I want to add the anarchy 7" to my door and rear side panels and Hertz Mille 28.3 in front I will use an Infinity mid with the Mille Pro's and in the back I have a Dynaudio (old school) 5.25" woof I will use for a mid and another Mille Pro28.3 set for subs I plan 2 JBL 12" subs and I have an 8 channel JL XD800v2 amp with an old school SoundStream REF4.920 - 4 Ch. 920 Watt RMS Class A/B Reference Series Amplifier and a SoundStream 1200x1 sub amp capable of 1 ohm to push my subs.... hopefully will do the trick
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Old 11-23-2021, 06:56 AM   #7
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Those Anarchy mids look amazing, especially for such a low price. Please post back once installed, I'd love to hear how they are in our cars.
I'm about to redo my entire install using a set of old school PPI Art amps and plan to test out a few midbass options in the doors. I currently run AF GS690s but was looking at the Anarchy MB as well as the Dayton HE.
I'm still struggling with subwoofer choices; looking at the Sundown SD-4 10 D2 and the Audiomobile EVO2410S4 (will run 2 subs) I thought about 12s but not sure I'll have the room for a 2ft3 box plus the amp rack...
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Old 11-23-2021, 08:50 AM   #8
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anarchy mids

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Those Anarchy mids look amazing, especially for such a low price. Please post back once installed, I'd love to hear how they are in our cars.
I'm about to redo my entire install using a set of old school PPI Art amps and plan to test out a few midbass options in the doors. I currently run AF GS690s but was looking at the Anarchy MB as well as the Dayton HE.
I'm still struggling with subwoofer choices; looking at the Sundown SD-4 10 D2 and the Audiomobile EVO2410S4 (will run 2 subs) I thought about 12s but not sure I'll have the room for a 2ft3 box plus the amp rack...
My friend who builds very high end home speakers custom says in a car the anarchy mids are meant to be more like subs, he has heard them and says put them all around and 4 in the back dash and you will never need more bass, I am skeptical because I believe in overkill so I never push the system.

I am still pondering options for mids in the front dash, don't know if I can squeak a 3.5' mid in there with only minor modification open to suggestions if you heard of a great mid for the front - I have some morel MD55 and
Infinity Kappa Perfect 300m but Satori MD60N-6 is a high end killer mid

I will keep everyone informed as I push the limits of what our Gen6's will take
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Old 11-23-2021, 09:47 AM   #9
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It's going to be very very hard to fit anything bigger than a 2.75" speaker in the dash, without major surgery.
I have a set of Morel CDM700 that I had plans to put in there and could not get them in.
I think the Audiofrog GB25 or GS25 are awesome little midranges/fullrange speakers.
The thing is that in our cars, midbass in the door has big cancellations around 325-425Hz so you're almost forced to put a crossover at 250Hz and it's hard to find small format midranges that will go there...
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Old 11-23-2021, 11:08 AM   #10
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It's going to be very very hard to fit anything bigger than a 2.75" speaker in the dash, without major surgery.
I have a set of Morel CDM700 that I had plans to put in there and could not get them in.
I think the Audiofrog GB25 or GS25 are awesome little midranges/fullrange speakers.
The thing is that in our cars, midbass in the door has big cancellations around 325-425Hz so you're almost forced to put a crossover at 250Hz and it's hard to find small format midranges that will go there...
I think I will pay the price and go with Satori mids 94DB sensitive, you can cross at 200 on low end and 2500+ on high end , just needs a little eq to tune them properly but they sound amazing when I heard them in a bookshelf.

BTW I bought the unit you suggested and will have 10 outs with EQ from the Axxess box connected to dual DSP's from parts express so I can tune this like nobody's business.... overkill I know but its gonna sound amazing!

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Old 11-23-2021, 11:38 AM   #11
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Awesome! Take pics and document your install if you can. I would certainly be interested to see how you fit those mids in the dash.
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Old 11-23-2021, 01:18 PM   #12
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another good mid possibly

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Awesome! Take pics and document your install if you can. I would certainly be interested to see how you fit those mids in the dash.
These might work better Peerless 2.5" mids ...flat from 250 to 5KHz
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Old 11-23-2021, 04:26 PM   #13
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Those look promising! with an FS of 105Hz, you can definitely play them from 250Hz with an LR4 XO.
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Old 11-23-2021, 07:00 PM   #14
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Unhappy big cancellations around 325-425Hz

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It's going to be very very hard to fit anything bigger than a 2.75" speaker in the dash, without major surgery.

The thing is that in our cars, midbass in the door has big cancellations around 325-425Hz so you're almost forced to put a crossover at 250Hz and it's hard to find small format midranges that will go there...
So does anyone know of what causes these cancellations? I am curious I never heard of this...
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