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eolson · 02-19-2012, 01:36 PM

The aftermarket will easily provide a simple pulley and tune upgrade for the ZL1 on top of it's current 580HP 2012 release, as well as GM upping the HP next year any way.

There is no comparison to the ZL1's progressive engineering in handling currently, and it's breaks are fantastic stock, so I don't see the purpose of the thread question other than an individual values having a unique but over priced, under performing Saleen like parallel in a Camaro. Erik

chd1 · 02-19-2012, 01:43 PM

i gotta go with Callaway by far the best and leave the others in the dust.. looks speed everything,

midnighter · 02-19-2012, 07:32 PM

How about a ZL1 done by Callaway and a winning Lotto ticket to afford it?.

Trevorw24 · 02-19-2012, 09:33 PM

Those Callaways are sick! Plus it's more exclusive!

hognutz · 02-19-2012, 11:06 PM

yeah they are so exclusive I could have one tomorrow and I can't even get my ZL-1 ha ha.

honestly last year I considered one but this year I can't fathom buying one over a ZL-1. mag ride, stronger tranny, dual disc clutch, stronger rear diff, etc, etc.

IOMZL1 · 02-20-2012, 07:37 AM

Maybe I’m a minority but I can’t get on board with the look of any of the Callaway cars that have ever been made. I’m sure the engineering is superb, but I have always preferred the stock look to anything Callaway has done.

As for Callaway vs. ZL1… if you want to go fast in a straight line but don’t care that much about road course handling, prefer the look of the Callaway, want something more exclusive, and money is no object go for the Callaway. Otherwise IMO it is ZL1 no contest.

SLP, Callaway, Berger… all of these guys will need to step it up to compete with the price and performance of the ZL1 or start modifying ZL1s. That, or they will just rely on the exclusivity and look of their cars to continue selling them.

WS580 · 03-20-2012, 10:29 AM

Could't wait for the ZL1....got the callaway...mor pics to come

dirishboy · 03-20-2012, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WS580

Could't wait for the ZL1....got the callaway...mor pics to come

Wow! Congrats

*radz28* · 03-20-2012, 11:04 AM

While I've always liked Callaway cars, a full 1/3 of SS was upgraded to ZL1. You can do a lot of that with the aftermarket, but the aftermarket can't duplicate the speed of EPS and MR. You can CERTAINLY get a car that will outperform ZL1 (many here have!!! - FOR LESS!!!), but whether those cars are as usable, and dare I say safe, as ZL1? That remains to be seen, as of yet. The electronic suite in ZL1 is unmatched, even superior to CTS-V AND Corvette. You have what sounds like a near-bomb-proof differential, upgraded tranny, shortblock, driveline, and a complete effective aerodynamics package, not to mention all the coolers you're going to need. ZL1 is a totaly package. If that matters, and having the adjustability at a button means something to you, then perhaps ZL1 might have a little edge. However - if you like tinkering, and don't mind swinging spanners and clicking some knobs - an upgraded SS will certainly outperform ZL1 and make you feel just as special - especially in a Callaway.

IMVHO - the Callaway will be more special in the end. It's your money and you can't go wrong as long as you're happy

EDIT: CONGRATS'!!! I know you're going to be one happy camper

Callaway Chris · 03-22-2012, 08:28 PM

Looks great - esp the hood!

Blueclyde · 03-22-2012, 10:23 PM

Very nice. Looks awesome. Congrats!

Scarrzz · 03-23-2012, 01:09 AM

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ZL1 FTW !!!

THAT IS ALL !

Deki · 03-23-2012, 01:52 AM

No offense, but the Callaways just look like regular SS Camaros with a hood and maybe a lower splitter. I'd go for the ZL1.

CAM....ZL1 · 03-23-2012, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deki

No offense, but the Callaways just look like regular SS Camaros with a hood and maybe a lower splitter. I'd go for the ZL1.

+1

02-19-2012, 01:36 PM	#29
eolson eolson Drives: 2006 premium Package Mustang GT cou Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Northville, MI Posts: 249	The aftermarket will easily provide a simple pulley and tune upgrade for the ZL1 on top of it's current 580HP 2012 release, as well as GM upping the HP next year any way. There is no comparison to the ZL1's progressive engineering in handling currently, and it's breaks are fantastic stock, so I don't see the purpose of the thread question other than an individual values having a unique but over priced, under performing Saleen like parallel in a Camaro. Erik __________________ 2006 Prem Pkg Mustang GT coupe. Saleen SC,10psi, 454rwhp,442rwtq, Complete Steeda/H&R, suspension change out, with weight loss, Techco Watts link, Stoptech big brakes, Race clutch, Alum. flywheel, Alum 1 pc driveshaft, 9x18,10x18 chrome bullit wheels, 285/40/18,255/45/18 nitto 555 tires. 3545 lbs currently. New car scent air freshener.

02-19-2012, 09:33 PM	#32
Trevorw24 Black Ma6ic Drives: 2011 Camaro LS M6 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,471	Those Callaways are sick! Plus it's more exclusive! __________________ DT Headers l MRT v2 l Injen SRI l Hurst STS l Resonators Delete l Lowered 1.25'' l 35% Tint l Black Bowties l Tinted Tail Lights l AAC lighting l Debadged

02-19-2012, 11:06 PM	#33
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,984	yeah they are so exclusive I could have one tomorrow and I can't even get my ZL-1 ha ha. honestly last year I considered one but this year I can't fathom buying one over a ZL-1. mag ride, stronger tranny, dual disc clutch, stronger rear diff, etc, etc. __________________ shopping for 2017+1le or zl1 2009 CTS-V -sold 2015 Hellcat-sold 2013 ZL1 -sold 2007 Z06- sold 2014 Chrysler 300 2011 Duramax 8" lift, deleted tuned

02-20-2012, 07:37 AM	#34
IOMZL1 Drives: 2015 Z/28 \| 2017 Viper ACR Extreme Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Brownsburg Posts: 1,009	Maybe I’m a minority but I can’t get on board with the look of any of the Callaway cars that have ever been made. I’m sure the engineering is superb, but I have always preferred the stock look to anything Callaway has done. As for Callaway vs. ZL1… if you want to go fast in a straight line but don’t care that much about road course handling, prefer the look of the Callaway, want something more exclusive, and money is no object go for the Callaway. Otherwise IMO it is ZL1 no contest. SLP, Callaway, Berger… all of these guys will need to step it up to compete with the price and performance of the ZL1 or start modifying ZL1s. That, or they will just rely on the exclusivity and look of their cars to continue selling them. __________________ dougshelbyengineering.com www.facebook.com/dougshelbyengineering www.instagram.com/dougshelbyengineering

03-20-2012, 10:29 AM	#35
WS580 wseditions Drives: 12callaway14Siliverado14RXFsport Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: CT Posts: 96	Could't wait for the ZL1....got the callaway...mor pics to come Attached Images

02-19-2012, 01:43 PM	#30
chd1 Drives: 68rs/69z28/2010 2SSRS-callaway Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: silver spring md. Posts: 304 View My Garage	i gotta go with Callaway by far the best and leave the others in the dust.. looks speed everything,

02-19-2012, 07:32 PM	#31
midnighter Account Suspended Drives: nothing Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: a hole Posts: 17,906	How about a ZL1 done by Callaway and a winning Lotto ticket to afford it?.

03-20-2012, 11:04 AM	#37
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,208 View My Garage	While I've always liked Callaway cars, a full 1/3 of SS was upgraded to ZL1. You can do a lot of that with the aftermarket, but the aftermarket can't duplicate the speed of EPS and MR. You can CERTAINLY get a car that will outperform ZL1 (many here have!!! - FOR LESS!!!), but whether those cars are as usable, and dare I say safe, as ZL1? That remains to be seen, as of yet. The electronic suite in ZL1 is unmatched, even superior to CTS-V AND Corvette. You have what sounds like a near-bomb-proof differential, upgraded tranny, shortblock, driveline, and a complete effective aerodynamics package, not to mention all the coolers you're going to need. ZL1 is a totaly package. If that matters, and having the adjustability at a button means something to you, then perhaps ZL1 might have a little edge. However - if you like tinkering, and don't mind swinging spanners and clicking some knobs - an upgraded SS will certainly outperform ZL1 and make you feel just as special - especially in a Callaway. IMVHO - the Callaway will be more special in the end. It's your money and you can't go wrong as long as you're happy EDIT: CONGRATS'!!! I know you're going to be one happy camper __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

03-22-2012, 08:28 PM	#38
Callaway Chris Drives: Callaway Corvette Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Out in the shop... Posts: 839	Looks great - esp the hood!

03-22-2012, 10:23 PM	#39
Blueclyde Drives: 2023 ZLE Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Detroit Posts: 1,717	Very nice. Looks awesome. Congrats!

03-23-2012, 01:09 AM	#40
Scarrzz No Fear-No Limits- Camaro Drives: '13 ZL1 or Suzuki Hayabusa Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Louisiana, CO, GA, TX, etc. Posts: 2,033 View My Garage	. ZL1 FTW !!! THAT IS ALL ! __________________ . __________________________________ ................................................The Faithful are Watching.

03-23-2012, 01:52 AM	#41
Deki Drives: 2018 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,764 View My Garage	No offense, but the Callaways just look like regular SS Camaros with a hood and maybe a lower splitter. I'd go for the ZL1. __________________ 2018 Mustang GT

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