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Whatever label you need to apply to feel better about your ignorance is ok with me. No impact.
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The technology will evolve. Just look how far batteries and charging have come in the last 10 years. In 15 years batteries will be smaller, lighter, more efficient, and likely you will see more solar self charging stations, or things like solar panels built into the car.
While I think this governor order is more political grandstanding than anything, even GM has been very open that they wanted 20ish new EV vehicles by 2023 (prior to Covid) so they appear to be all in. In 15 years I fully expect that I will be driving either a hybrid or full EV sports car. |
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No impact on me either. I guess I called it right then! It’s all good though. You believe what you want and I will do the same.
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Like Charlton Heston said, they'll have to peel my cold dead hands off of it. And don't confuse Mary Barra being all in herself with GM as a whole or "they" being all in..... I have read some disturbing information about the dissatisfaction of GM engineers with how Mary is directing them to design and engineer electric vehicle platforms. Not everyone at GM is on board. Far from it. The whole "electric car" movement is less something that people really want and more of an edict by those few in power. Edicts don't drive the future. You can't sit people down and force them to buy electric cars if they plain and simply don't want one. |
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In 15+ years I am going to be pushing mid 60's so I think I might be ready GM has moved some of their Corvette engineers to EV, so I think it is a sign of things to come. And I think if you are wanting a modern sports car in 15 years you likely wont have a lot of choice. But nothing wrong with keeping a V8 manual "classic" in the garage. I may do the same as long as they are not banned from the streets... |
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Places are different(I can't believe I need even explain this). Europe is a different place, there are things that work there that will not work in America(or even Canada). Again, I think it will depend on if hybrids are still allowed. If so then I can understand a bit more, if not then this is stupid. Quote:
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Batteries need a lot of materials to be mined, so the bottleneck is dependent on the price of the raw material. Today's price is already considering how some mines are very unethically operated, and global supply chains are messy enough that you never know who you are sourcing it from. Of course, there could be a totally different battery tech coming out, but that's a lot to bet on. Besides, for a lot of safety concerns, we are actually get somewhat close to the limit where you can actually control the energy in a battery. Lithium fires are pretty difficult to fight, as we have seen before. Sent from toaster or something
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That said, while I am not against EVs in certain applications, there are cases it won't work. Basically if you don't have a garage or live in apartment with chargers, charging infrastructure is gonna be a pain in the neck. Sent from toaster or something
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We are still very early on here with EV tech, and with all major manufacturers like GM, Ford, VW, etc all getting aggressive we will see some of the greatest engineers and minds working towards improving the tech. I am optimistic. But I am not stupid. ICE engines will be around for awhile and for good reason, but I do see over the next 10-20 years a big push and companies are worried about building vehicles for a global economy. Having a car built specifically for the US and then one built for Europe and then one built for Asia would be incredible costly and redundant. Asia is seen as the growth market, and I think GM wants to be a player there. |
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DO NOT COME TO ARIZONA!
I find it amazing that so many Californians leave their state because its all screwed up, then come here to enjoy the way our state is ran, but immediately start screwing this one up by voting the candidates and policies that screwed up Cali. because "the way we doing things here are wrong". Stay the $%# OUT if you have this mentality!
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Ahh yes, the typical "the scientists are living in McMansions, driving around Ferrari's, living off of that sweet income from doing science..." Yes, the same people who brought you The Microwave and Computer Chips...but now it's all a conspiracy and 97% of them are in on the chemtrails. I always find it entertaining when people without a degree in the field suddenly think they know what they are talking about. I do have some formal (university and work) training in meteorology, but more than that, I've traveled with many of the scientists to their work locations in the Arctic. I always find it entertaining when people deflect and try to bring up strawman arguments. And being serious for a second...I have no idea what you mean by "process the waste". That's exactly what emissions have been improving on for years, now getting to where we need to change those emissions or eliminate them. It's far more efficient (yes, the calculations have been done on this) to generate power at the power-plant, whether it be nuclear, fission, fusion, wind, natural gas, hydroelectric, etc..., and transport it to your electric car. Emissions are still often involved here, but in terms of total impact, in both emissions and energy used, it's a better way. There is already at least partial infrastructure for it and as more of a shift is made, infrastructure is improved. Shirley you aren't advocating for a giant plastic bag on your exhaust and then sending it somewhere to use a lot more energy to scrub the carbon out of it? And at the very least, you should be super hyped that this leaves far more oil and fuel available for military maneuvers, practice and reserves.
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Do you realize it's possible to live in CA in places other than LA and the Bay Area?
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Electric cars were science fiction when I was growing up. The fact that they are reality now is amazing. Not for everyone, but to the point where they are practical for a large part of the population. It will only improve.
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