01-28-2018, 07:56 PM | #1275 |
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You did. You made a statement. You can't back it up. So you changed to subject to something from a week ago. Conversation over. Walk on.
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01-28-2018, 08:03 PM | #1276 | |
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Outside of the Cobras the Mustang wasn't worth buying in the mid 90s to early 2000s. Well also the Mach 1. The only thing the GT had going for them was that they were cheap and they sounded good with a catback. And if you threw a blower on it you could get to about 400 to the wheels safely and reliably. |
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400 HP, super super like candy to work on... nuff said.
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01-28-2018, 08:28 PM | #1278 |
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I was a fan of the Edelbrock Performer RPM series kit and the Holley Systemax II kit. I had the Performer RPM on my 95 GT that had a 351W conversion. That car was a blast! My cousin has a 91 with a 347 stroker and TF (old style) cast iron heads and the Professional Products Typhoon IM (knock off of the Performer IM, lol).
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01-29-2018, 06:13 AM | #1279 |
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And back then who cared about what a mustang/camaro would do at a track - nobody. It was all street and strip action. Come into to a gathering talking about how your car handled and you would be laughed right out.
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01-29-2018, 07:01 AM | #1280 |
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I gotta disagree. I mean, true there was a lot of street action much like today. But there was a lot of action and big names at the tracks too. At least around here. The track stayed packed every night. People would be out there gambling, fighting, etc. A lot of shops got their name from going to the track and racing their cars.
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01-29-2018, 07:06 AM | #1281 |
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Why not? If the rumors of a starting price of $70K are real, then there will be nothing like in the world at its price range.
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Second called you out for overlooking the poor performance of the PP1 to refute my statement "good enough". That was supported by Lieberman's statement. "Not only should Ford have done a better job, but I know they can do a better job." Ford doesn't care because you all overlook the shortcoming. This is a PP1 costing $49,670. It's list of performance parts and upgrades match the 1LE with the exception of 30 mm tire width. There is no excuse for how poorly it performed. Sorry if my sentiments offended you but they align completely with the conclusion of article.
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Just read that review this morning. I guess we will see how the PP2 Mustang does soon enough, can't wait to see the price.
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01-29-2018, 09:00 AM | #1284 |
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As BlaqWhole pointed out in the past, the PP2 is going to need to match the base GT350. Could be that the engineers were able to create the PP2 working after hours because they took the chassis set-up directly from the GT350. That would solve the PP1 mess
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I'm gone for a few days and were talking about cars that came out almost 30 years ago lol
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GTFOH!!!!!
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01-29-2018, 10:19 AM | #1288 |
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I wouldn't say that's an excuse but rather different strategy/goal. GM clearly put performance as priority #1, Ford did not.
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