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Old 05-30-2011, 05:49 PM   #43
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For all those that are hating on Push buttons.... Just want to share a little information.

Race cars are mostly push button starts. There is just something when you get behind the wheel of that car that makes you want to push in a clutch, push a button, mash that shifter in 1st, romp on the gas pedal, dump the clutch and go! For those of you who still want to fiddle faddle around with your massive amounts of keys (that actually also do damage to your ignition switch as the 5 pound wieghts dangle from you steering column over a period of time), stay in the right lane please as you are most likely going to get passed. You might as well carry that hand crank with you as you still live in the dark ages and are afraid of change. A push start is not problematic. The problem lies in the user who must feel the need to carry around a ton of keys they most of which they never use. Honestly I had 3 keys on my key fob. The key to my Camaro, the key to my Harley and my house key. On a separate keychain I carry the rest of my keys to the rest of my junk. Once you get yourself into a routine it really becomes quite natural. Yet then again, routines are also hard to break.
And here I thought most race cars had a toggle switch, not a push button ...

Either way, they don't have an electronic fob either
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Old 05-30-2011, 05:56 PM   #44
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And here I thought most race cars had a toggle switch, not a push button ...

Either way, they don't have an electronic fob either
Comparing the Camaro to professional race cars is a little farfetched.
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Old 05-30-2011, 11:20 PM   #45
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Comparing the Camaro to professional race cars is a little farfetched.
But comparing the ZL1 to a race car is a little closer
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Old 05-31-2011, 12:57 AM   #46
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Push button vs keys, neither is drastically better than the other and clinging to or avoiding either seems kind of silly.
They are just different methods to do the same thing, start the car.
I don't see how having a push button makes any difference if it's a muscle car or not, so tired of seeing "it's a muscle car" used as a reason to not add this or not change that.
As if it's a sin to evolve. Don't be afraid of change.

Push buttons are cool mostly for the look and everything else is minimal. It's not like turning a key is hard or annoying. You still have a fob u have to keep track of just like a key. So it boils down to different hand movements.

The one thing I will say is keyless entry is a more modern thing and those putting it in there cars I would say are more forward thinking and prob have better tech in other areas of the car. So I would want it in the camaro for that reason.

I have remote start so I'd never push button anyway, the ignition is just a hole to keep my key in while I'm driving

Now if they could reduce the size of the fob to something I can just keep in my wallet that would be cool.


But here's an idea.
Why not have both?
It's not hard to have the ignition and the push button be the same thing.
If you don't like the push button, pull the plastic cover off and the keyhole is under it.
The standard fob would have a key and a sensor to activate the car. So it would work in both situations. And everyone would be happy.
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:11 AM   #47
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Push button start = easier to steal... don't get me wrong, I know they require the fob to be in a certain distance or even inside the car, but the wires are right next to the wheel, quick cut and the car is GONE! My LEO neighbor asked if I had that and I said no, he was relieved as they get calls about the push button cars all the time.

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For all those that are hating on Push buttons.... Just want to share a little information.

Race cars are mostly push button starts. There is just something when you get behind the wheel of that car that makes you want to push in a clutch, push a button, mash that shifter in 1st, romp on the gas pedal, dump the clutch and go! For those of you who still want to fiddle faddle around with your massive amounts of keys (that actually also do damage to your ignition switch as the 5 pound wieghts dangle from you steering column over a period of time), stay in the right lane please as you are most likely going to get passed. You might as well carry that hand crank with you as you still live in the dark ages and are afraid of change. A push start is not problematic. The problem lies in the user who must feel the need to carry around a ton of keys they most of which they never use. Honestly I had 3 keys on my key fob. The key to my Camaro, the key to my Harley and my house key. On a separate keychain I carry the rest of my keys to the rest of my junk. Once you get yourself into a routine it really becomes quite natural. Yet then again, routines are also hard to break.
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Old 05-31-2011, 06:10 AM   #48
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Yes, I agree 100%.
We shouldn't need keys, just a proximity sensor. My 2010 Nissan Armada has a small key fob that you keep in your pocket and you never need to pull it out. Just push start and off you go!
Keys are outdated.
Exactly... that's what I'd like to see. I want the small fob that doesn't flip out a sharp key inside my pocket. But I prefer to use the fob to unlock the doors rather than another proximity sensor.
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Old 05-31-2011, 07:51 AM   #49
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Just one point: for all those arguing that a push start=lazy, do me a favor: Go home and throw away your computer, cell phone, microwave, refrigerator, vacuum cleaner, central heat/air, light bulbs, etc. Look, now you're Amish! Good for you.
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Old 05-31-2011, 08:08 AM   #50
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Old 05-31-2011, 08:38 AM   #51
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Bring back the crank.
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Old 05-31-2011, 08:47 AM   #52
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Not sure about a push button start but it would be sweet to remove the ignition switch from the column and put it in the dash.
I really like it in both my 67 camaro and my 99 vette.
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:45 PM   #53
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Push button start = easier to steal... don't get me wrong, I know they require the fob to be in a certain distance or even inside the car, but the wires are right next to the wheel, quick cut and the car is GONE! My LEO neighbor asked if I had that and I said no, he was relieved as they get calls about the push button cars all the time.
I doubt that they are any less or more easier to steal. Just different.
And it doesn't seem to matter how you start your car it will still get stolen, metal key or not.
The thing to remember is neither method is a theft deterrent, if someone wants your car having a old fashioned metal key isn't going to slow them down one bit. Car thieves are so good they can walk up to your car, get in and drive away and you would think they did have a key.
And this I've seen with my own eyes.
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:46 PM   #54
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so i still need to bring my house key with me when i leave so i still would have keys but now they will be in pocket instead on hinging in the ignition much rather have them out of my pocket. maybe i am just used to a key
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:51 PM   #55
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My favorite part is hearing it turn on. I couldn't care less whether it's a button, a key, or a freaking crank!!
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No button. Wall where I hang my keys (or potential fob) is too close to the garage/driveway. Don't want my car wandering away at night.
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