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Old 07-09-2015, 11:14 AM   #15
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Mustang6G will still find a way to spin this.
http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/show...20744&page=208

this guy......haha
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Old 07-09-2015, 11:19 AM   #16
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I don't understand how someone can be that big of a fanboy.

I mean I'm probably one of the biggest GM fans out there but I'll call GM out on their stupidity when it's warranted. And I have no problem giving Ford kudos, I think Mustang's a hell of a good car and a looker too.
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Old 07-09-2015, 11:22 AM   #17
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I don't understand how someone can be that big of a fanboy.

I mean I'm probably one of the biggest GM fans out there but I'll call GM out on their stupidity when it's warranted. And I have no problem giving Ford kudos, I think Mustang's a hell of a good car and a looker too.
Same here man.
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Old 07-09-2015, 11:46 AM   #18
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AB: So the V6 to V6 is 300 pounds lighter?

AO: Yes. That's why we say more than 200 [pounds], because you've got to start talking about all of the models. So the V8, we say is over 200 [pounds lighter] to its predecessor. The V6 is actually closer to 300. It's just under 300 to its V6 predecessor.

Crow has been served. Time to eat it (especially the Mustang fan boys).
It's pretty clear how Al said it the way he did on purpose. He's not comparing 1SS to 2SS guys. Same model to same model without options like MRC. There's being pessimistic and there's making up things Al never said. We all remember how that went with the turbo 4.

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Old 07-09-2015, 11:47 AM   #19
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I'm sure he applies copious amounts of hemroid creme every night.
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Old 07-09-2015, 11:54 AM   #20
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Well they did say over 300 and now its "closer" to 300 so that raises an eyebrow. At what point are they rounding up? 251lbs and up is closer since you round up past half way? Sorry but that isnt the same thing. If you wanna drop numbers than hit those numbers not wait a few months and say we we got close.
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This is what worries me. Stripped out 16 1SS is 200lbs lighter than a fully optioned 15 2SS... I mean you'd think that would be an obvious thing NOT to do but stranger things...
First off, it was never said anywhere that either the V6 or V8 would be over 300 pounds lighter. Maybe someone else said it, but GM never did.

I'm sure they are comparing these weights using like-equipped versions. Its likely base to base, but maybe its loaded to loaded...who knows. Speaking of the SS with MRC, I'd say that one will be less than 200 pounds lost b/c of the weight of MRC, but one without MRC will be 200+ when compared to a similarly configured 2015 SS.

You guys just need to have faith. They know we are going to call them out if they lie to us.
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:04 PM   #21
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Mustang6G will still find a way to spin this.
It feels wrong of me, and I should be a better person.

But when the weights are released, I feel like some thread should be created, calling out that troll ThePill and basically used as a childish "HAHA You are wrong....eat CROW!!!" But it doesn't matter. He will still deny it, or he will simply not address it and move on to some other Camaro-hating topic b/c that's what he does.

ThePill 101:

1) Throw out several possible outcomes, claim you have inside knowledge or expertise in each area...but don't throw them out all at once. Sprinkling them over time, across different threads. When one of them is right, CLAIM YOUR SUPERIOURITY (by the way, I've seen him say he feels the SS weight could be anywhere from under 3,700 pounds, to 3,850 pounds....base SS weight)

2) Word everything in such a way, and throw out so many supporting facts (aka...things he made, up, or mislead) that he actually does sound like an expert and very knowledgeable....people will believe. Post huge threads about details nobody should ever care about.

3) When someone calls you out on your BS, and you have no where to turn, just keep chugging along by not responding and going to a new topic, or respond, but deflect the discussion to a new topic which likely has no real bearing on the BS you've been called out on.

Anyways...sorry that bit of a de-rail....back on topic.
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:05 PM   #22
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Nailed it. I can see a fully loaded 6th gen with MRC being 125ish pounds lighter than a fully loaded 5th gen. That MRC is heavy.
I thought I read MRC only adds like 7 lbs of weight.

Other than that it should stay 200 lbs lighter option for option. So considering a 15 2ss manual is 3938 a 16 2ss with MRC shouldnt get over 3750.

The GT gains so much weight and gets over 3800 because of the larger brakes on the pp. A loaded gt without pp is under 3800 lbs.

The camaro keeps the same brakes it looks like between ss models.

I don't see a reason yet as to why the 2ss loaded would really be that much heavier than a 1ss. It was only 30lbs difference last time. so now with MRC and heated/ cooled seats and some other new gadgets... It could be closer to a 50 lb difference. Not a big deal...

Edit... Could add 7 lbs per corner. Can't remember. If so could be another 20 lbs onto my estimate. Anyone know?

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Old 07-09-2015, 12:11 PM   #23
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What might (and probably will) end up happening is the opposite. Someone (perhaps a certain mustang fan...) will post up weight comparisons between the 5th gen no option 1SS coupe and 6th gen fully loaded 2SS convertible just so they can say "HA! GM LIED and those camaro fools believed all the hype!! There's only a 178 lb difference!! IDIOTS."
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:13 PM   #24
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I bet they're already saying that because the Mustang has bigger front brakes, that's why it weighs more and is a better car.

You just have to chuckle.
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:33 PM   #25
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You guys to go over and read the 2017 Mustang will be better than the camaro thread at mustang6.com
Seriously funny stuff
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:40 PM   #26
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The best part (for us, sad for the person that did it) is they were so butt hurt about Reuess's comment about the 2016 Camaro being better in every way than the Mustang, that after they made the thread about the comment they actually changed the name of thread to the 2017 Mustang being better in everyway. A thread that has more excuses and posts than you will find on this entire forum.
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:51 PM   #27
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Mustang6G will still find a way to spin this.
That joker that calls himself "The Pill" posted this ridiculous statement...

"It's nearly a ghost town on Camaro6". I think this website is doing just fine, especially for a car that hasn't even been released yet, and the 5th gen still selling well.
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:56 PM   #28
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that was a good read.

although im struggling to comprehend this...

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I've read blogs where younger folks won't buy a Camaro because it doesn't have a 2.0-liter turbo or a turbocharged four-cylinder
who wouldn't buy a car because it isn't offered with a completely out of the ordinary for the platform engine? sure I could see not buying the car because its no longer offered with a V8. The car is known for having a V8. But to not buy a car because it isn't offered with a turbo 4? I think that's kind of odd...
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