[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by Fox9350

Perhaps, but the mustang consistently trapping 3-5 mph higher on these early runs might say otherwise

Yeah, you're right it really might. I am excited to see what shakes out with owner cars, hearing about these few hero runs over and over is getting old.


The way I see it though, the Camaro has a clear advantage out the gate, while the Mustang starts to catch it in the back half.

If the Camaro botches the launch, it wont be pretty.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by motorhead

I just thought of this thread this morning from our talk on the other thread. Seems as though the Mustang is aways just a little behind. This was a great run. Faster than what I could ever get out of my 2012 ZL1 at the beaver. Although, I never got to run it in ultimate conditions or track prep.

Agreed, just a tiny bit behind but RIGHT there in case the Camaro slips up even a little.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Not sure what you are getting at comparing slips. My car has run tens in 70 degree weather. Comparing back half on different tracks and weather is a joke. I went faster end of story. Without a converter and in higher DA. Pretty funny

That #2 car also had a large DA advantage over me. I have two passes on my setup and shift points not even dialed in. I’ve back halved 25 + on other passes as well. If you look at my thread from that pass that lane was reading a lower mph all night

What it only took for my car to run tens is ridiculous. A 15-17 s550 is not capable of the the same apples to apples period. Do only what I have done to my car at 3700+ lbs on a 15-17 s550 same track and day and you got nothing for me.End of story

You think you are talking to an amateur ? A GT with only my mods is an 11.5 car at my tracks. I shit on them. It’s not even close

If they pull weight, run ftw and a converter it gets interesting. Other than that nope sorry. That’s reality

you are an endless string of excuses. they are bolt-on cars that are as fast or faster than yours and one of them is faster than all but one SS with converters and/or internal mods.

more faster...less excuses

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by motorhead

I just thought of this thread this morning from our talk on the other thread. Seems as though the Mustang is aways just a little behind. This was a great run. Faster than what I could ever get out of my 2012 ZL1 at the beaver. Although, I never got to run it in ultimate conditions or track prep.

I've run my 2SS A8 is faster and more consistent than my best 13 ZL1 also.

The gen6 Camaro was leap forward whereas the 15-17 S550 stepped backward a little and pretty much matched the gen5 Camaro. Looks like at the SS and GT level, it will be a drivers race now

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

Yeah, you're right it really might. I am excited to see what shakes out with owner cars, hearing about these few hero runs over and over is getting old.


The way I see it though, the Camaro has a clear advantage out the gate, while the Mustang starts to catch it in the back half.

If the Camaro botches the launch, it wont be pretty.

and if the Mustang botches its launch? Ugly too. Looks to be a drivers race.

Crazy times. I'm hoping for 11s from these cars in gen7.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

regardless of what you may consider. a Converter is a bolt on...according to you're own fast list.

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Really? A torque Converter is considered a bolt on here?

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by hotlap

and if the Mustang botches its launch? Ugly too. Looks to be a drivers race.

Crazy times. I'm hoping for 11s from these cars in gen7.

Well, if the Mustang nails it launch and the Camaro does too, I still think the Camaro will win.

My point was, the Mustang cannot beat the Camaro all things equal. The Camaro has an edge, however slight.

Driver Race indeed!

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Really? A torque Converter is considered a bolt on here?

Pretty much anywhere. Internal mods usually designate mods to the engine only, otherwise gears would become an internal mod as well.

[TEEZYSS]

Ok so one of the first customer owned 2018 GT’s clicks off 11.97@119 in stock form. Negative DA with Drag mode


Was Evans car a ringer??? Ford prepped car?? The rundown

Evan..... Customer
1.88......1.86.. -.02
7.72......7.81.. +.09
95.2......93.5...-1.7 Mph
11.83....11.97.. +.14
119.5....119.0.. - .5


Mmmmmm better 60ft and look at that!! Evans run still went Quicker in the 1/8 Et and Mph....


Here is another customers car on a drag pack in negative DA.

Evan..... Customer
1.88...... 1.88....——
7.72...... 7.85... -.13
95.2...... 94.0... -1.2 Mph
11.83.... 11.97... + .14
119.5..... 119.5...———


Same 60ft,better Da,drag pack,same 1/4 Mph... but look!!! 1/8 mile et and Mph!!



Really interesting that both the customer that went 11.97 and Ecobeast from YouTube both ran in killer DA. Both used Drag Mode. And both trapped 93 in the 1/8. Both trapped 119.

Looks like off the lot cars aren’t the same as media prepped cars.

[BlaqWhole]

Must be that Mustang Unicorn dragon tooth fairy pixie dust wish upon a star magic.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

Pretty much anywhere. Internal mods usually designate mods to the engine only, otherwise gears would become an internal mod as well.

I don't think I have ever heard anyone consider a torque converter to be a bolt on.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by shaffe

I don't think I have ever heard anyone consider a torque converter to be a bolt on.

you should notify the people who created the fast list for Camaro6, Mustang6g, Challengertalk , Corvetteforum and every other fast list I personally have ever looked at.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by shaffe

I don't think I have ever heard anyone consider a torque converter to be a bolt on.

I’ve always thought it was ridiculous. Something you have remove the transmission to install is a bolt on. But yeah it’s always been that way on forums.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

regardless of what you may consider. a Converter is a bolt on...according to you're own fast list.

"Your".

And a torque converter is considered a bolt-on according to the fast list. But it is not a true bolt-on. Kinda like how nitrous is not forced induction but gets looped in the same class sometimes.