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Old 12-24-2020, 02:54 PM   #113
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Still don't need that as well since i never drive for long.
It’s in those short drives, where the car has been heated up in the sun & the AC hasn’t had enough time to cool the inside down you notice, & enjoy, it the most.
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Old 12-24-2020, 09:55 PM   #114
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Again, those races were with inexperienced LT1 drivers or drivers who haven't gotten used to the car. People who actually know how to drive the car got the same times as those SS drivers even with the all-seasons. Those tires mostly become an issue with handling and tracking, not on the dragstrip.
While the guy in your linked video seems to have the best timeslip that I've seen claimed yet for an LT1 if it's legitimately stock like he says it is, that is still not quite the same times as the SS has been running. If you checked the fast list here in category #2 (stock with automatic trans) you'd find some 11.9s there for the SS. Those are not the quickest times that we've heard of for the SS, just ones that were posted to the list. Here is the video LT1's time for reference:
60'=1.887
330'=5.213
1/8=7.900
mph=92.15
ET=12.128
mph=116.48
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Old 12-24-2020, 10:14 PM   #115
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How can the SS be any Faster than an LT1?
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Old 12-24-2020, 11:36 PM   #116
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How can the SS be any Faster than an LT1?
I think the theory would be better traction with the wider rear tire & summer compound for better launch and less wheel slip on the 1-2 shift. That might be enough to overcome the slight weight penalty on the SS.
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Old 12-25-2020, 07:06 AM   #117
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I think the theory would be better traction with the wider rear tire & summer compound for better launch and less wheel slip on the 1-2 shift. That might be enough to overcome the slight weight penalty on the SS.
My 2021 LT1 will spin at much less than WOT from any slow roll. Wet roads you gotta stay off the gas for sure.
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Old 12-25-2020, 07:06 AM   #118
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How can the SS be any Faster than an LT1?
Already has been mentioned in this thread, tires are different.
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Old 12-25-2020, 08:00 AM   #119
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Already has been mentioned in this thread, tires are different.
Tires are a moot point for anyone that drag races. What drag racer really keeps the stock wheels and tires anyway? Hell even the ricers swap tires. The tires that come with a car shouldn't be a determining factor.
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Old 12-25-2020, 08:22 AM   #120
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I don’t think Chevy made the LT1 to persuade a prospective 1SS buyer to downgrade. I think it was made to attract an LT buyer to step up to a V8.

Give me an LT1 with leather seats and put MSRP at $35,000 and I would have pulled trigger. It’s a daily driver for me so not having to pay for HIGHER performance components is an advantage and gives me opportunity to enjoy the power. Regarding look of vehicle, personally, I like the front of the SS more, however, I like the the rear of the LT1 without spoiler.

GM needs to figure out how to sell more If our Camaro is to have a chance of coming back after 2022. GM headed in right direction with LT1. I fear it too late.
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Old 12-25-2020, 09:22 AM   #121
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I don’t think Chevy made the LT1 to persuade a prospective 1SS buyer to downgrade. I think it was made to attract an LT buyer to step up to a V8.

Give me an LT1 with leather seats and put MSRP at $35,000 and I would have pulled trigger. It’s a daily driver for me so not having to pay for HIGHER performance components is an advantage and gives me opportunity to enjoy the power. Regarding look of vehicle, personally, I like the front of the SS more, however, I like the the rear of the LT1 without spoiler.

GM needs to figure out how to sell more If our Camaro is to have a chance of coming back after 2022. GM headed in right direction with LT1. I fear it too late.
The Recaros add $1500+/- MSRP to the price tag. You could of negotiated that in the deal or ate the extra $2.50 a month higher payment.....
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Old 12-25-2020, 10:08 AM   #122
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I don’t think Chevy made the LT1 to persuade a prospective 1SS buyer to downgrade. I think it was made to attract an LT buyer to step up to a V8.

Give me an LT1 with leather seats and put MSRP at $35,000 and I would have pulled trigger. It’s a daily driver for me so not having to pay for HIGHER performance components is an advantage and gives me opportunity to enjoy the power. Regarding look of vehicle, personally, I like the front of the SS more, however, I like the the rear of the LT1 without spoiler.

GM needs to figure out how to sell more If our Camaro is to have a chance of coming back after 2022. GM headed in right direction with LT1. I fear it too late.
You hit the nail right on the head Michael G! That’s what I have been saying about the LT1 Camaro ever since it came out. It wasn’t intended to be a loaded up with options Camaro but a low cost V8 alternative to the higher cost SS. Some folks want to be able to get every option it seems which drives the cost up when they could buy a 1SS for the same money or less. Maybe GM should do away with the 1SS and just offer the LT1 and 2SS and maybe some people would be happy!
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Old 12-25-2020, 11:21 AM   #123
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You hit the nail right on the head Michael G! That’s what I have been saying about the LT1 Camaro ever since it came out. It wasn’t intended to be a loaded up with options Camaro but a low cost V8 alternative to the higher cost SS. Some folks want to be able to get every option it seems which drives the cost up when they could buy a 1SS for the same money or less. Maybe GM should do away with the 1SS and just offer the LT1 and 2SS and maybe some people would be happy!
Exactly.

I bought the LT1 for the simplicity of it. I didnt want all the luxuries. If I was buying it as a DD, I may have gotten the SS. I didn’t choose the LT1 because it was cheaper, because honestly its not that much cheaper especially once you start adding options. For my “Hot Rod” I want simplicity and my LT1 fit the bill perfectly. Plus, I feel like the more fancy shit you got, the greater the chance for something to go wrong. I prefer no options except power windows...lol
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Old 12-25-2020, 12:16 PM   #124
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I don’t think Chevy made the LT1 to persuade a prospective 1SS buyer to downgrade. I think it was made to attract an LT buyer to step up to a V8.

Give me an LT1 with leather seats and put MSRP at $35,000 and I would have pulled trigger. It’s a daily driver for me so not having to pay for HIGHER performance components is an advantage and gives me opportunity to enjoy the power. Regarding look of vehicle, personally, I like the front of the SS more, however, I like the the rear of the LT1 without spoiler.

GM needs to figure out how to sell more If our Camaro is to have a chance of coming back after 2022. GM headed in right direction with LT1. I fear it too late.
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You hit the nail right on the head Michael G! That’s what I have been saying about the LT1 Camaro ever since it came out. It wasn’t intended to be a loaded up with options Camaro but a low cost V8 alternative to the higher cost SS. Some folks want to be able to get every option it seems which drives the cost up when they could buy a 1SS for the same money or less. Maybe GM should do away with the 1SS and just offer the LT1 and 2SS and maybe some people would be happy!
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Exactly.

I bought the LT1 for the simplicity of it. I didnt want all the luxuries. If I was buying it as a DD, I may have gotten the SS. I didn’t choose the LT1 because it was cheaper, because honestly its not that much cheaper especially once you start adding options. For my “Hot Rod” I want simplicity and my LT1 fit the bill perfectly. Plus, I feel like the more fancy shit you got, the greater the chance for something to go wrong. I prefer no options except power windows...lol
The thing about the SS is that they put the heady duty cooling and summer-only tires on it. I bought a 2SS because I wanted a V8 with leather and heated/cooled seats. The beefed up stuff for the track is useless to me and I bet 95% of the people who buy an SS. But leather and heated seats are features a lot of people want, even if you don’t.

It would have made more sense for GM to offer the 2SS without the heavy duty stuff or the LT1 WITH all the luxury options than the other way around.

With the 1SS you’re paying the extra money over the LT1 for the track stuff, not luxury features. The 1SS and LT1 have the same basic standard feature list as far as luxury features.

There’s no way to get a Camaro with a V8 and leather, heated/cooled seats, and dual zone climate control without getting heavy duty cooling and summer-only tires, neither of which most people need or really want.

This poor packaging/option configuration decision by GM has no doubt contributed to the slow sales of this car.
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Old 12-25-2020, 01:05 PM   #125
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Maybe Chevy should offer a LT1 with options and just a SS with the 1LE option and other equipment that is standard on the 2SS now then. The LT1 would be a model and the SS would be a separate model like it used to be years ago.
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Old 12-25-2020, 01:24 PM   #126
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This is so simple - all GM needs to do is plug in the damn seat heaters on the Recaro seats they already offer on the LT1! Or offer a cold weather package with heated seats and heated steering wheel, even if that forces the Recaro seats it would still make it available. I probably would have selected it.

There should also be a safety package with rear cross traffic alert and blind spot monitors available on every trim level. Arguably that should be standard equipment on the Camaro, but at least should be optional. Shameful that you have to go to a 2SS to get it.
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