03-15-2014, 04:33 PM | #113 |
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tomatoes potatoes.. the opinions are just that, based on personal preferences.. anyone of the hardcore bloggers here on Camaro5, could have and probably did already state the same opinion as the article referenced..
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IMHO, if they had landed squarely in between those sketches and what they ended up with, I think it would have been perfect. The sketches were too far out there and the final product is too reserved. As for the 6th gen Camaro... I want a lighter evolution of the 5th gen and I said a long time ago that that's what they'll do. I have full faith in the Camaro team to make this car look absolutely stunning. I don't envy them for having to one up the 5th gen's looks, though. After playing around in Paint Shop Pro on concept Camaros for a while, I've decided that I would not, in fact, like to be on the Camaro design team. Theirs has to be the hardest job in the whole of the automotive world. For me it's a race between saving enough to get an AGP TT kit and what will be an amazing 6th gen. I wish I could have both!
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03-15-2014, 05:10 PM | #115 |
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What's all this cartoon talk???
The 5Gen was almost perfect as is reflected in the sales. The Camaro needs to be muscular, aggressive...a presence parked or being driven. It should have a strong track (road-race not drags) identity.
The "future direction" of sporting cars IMO is:
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03-15-2014, 05:30 PM | #118 |
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Yes the P1 is absolutely awesome. They've set the bar again. The new Porsche may have some cool tech, but the P1 hands down is the (much) more beautiful and futuristic looking of the 2.
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03-15-2014, 06:36 PM | #119 |
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IMO, Even though styling is 100% opinion, you still need to have the right kind of styling in the near future generation to be released to appeal to the masses to maximize sales in order for the corporation to have major success with it. There are certain styles that appeal more to some than to others. GM creates cars that generally for the 99%. Porsche, Ferrari, and Lamborghini target the 1%'ers.
With that said, GM has developed a team that can design and build award winning stylish cars that appeal to those 99%er's. So far they are on the right track because I believe that those teams within GM utilize some sort of marketing assessment to help in developing those vehicles based on sales and customer feedback. The system they have setup has helped seen the Camaro improve over the last 5 years. What's there to worry about? I say, keep the faith. I'd also like to add that people like Number 3, Fbodfather, Al. O, Mark Steilow, will and should help Camaro have continued success
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03-15-2014, 06:56 PM | #120 |
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I was going to respond but you took the words right out my mouth! Thank you! Especially on the interior part because it's all 60's camaro in it. It creates a special experience because of the interior retro design! The whole Retro theme is the exact reason why I am keeping my car forever. I would need a 60's camaro to compete with the 5th Gen. So I'm good! Can't beat a 60's camaro design!
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That particular shape had some nice elements to it; the front still had some issues I think but overall it had a good feel.
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A great driver's experience is everything; seating, ergonomics of the cockpit and where the controls are, what gauges are visible and where, view out of the cockpit, mirror positions and coverage, control feel, performance, response of the machine, etc. My philosophy is to solve for that first, then figure out how to wrap a suitable shape around that with as few compromises to the function as is reasonably possible. That produces fighter jets with all their exciting looks and performance. And as Number 3 said, that takes a lot of HARD WORK. I never said or say that it's easy. If you think about it, if the beginning of a car STARTS with the artist's wild over-the-top sketches, isn't that the same thing as saying "Ok, let's make a car (plane) that looks bad-ass!"? I know that's pretty much how it's done but I feel that is something that could and should change. The evidence of how valid (and useful) that is, is the new Z/28. Mark Stielow's mandate from GM was to "make it fast". That is pure function. And that ruled everything they were doing which resulted in a very fantastic-looking car so you see, you do get both if you do it right, but it is indeed hard work. I may be the only one but I do not like the looks of the new P1. The front and sides (to me) looks like it's been eaten away by a cancer or something. And since EVERYONE is trying to come up with that exact same type of look, here's the bad news... in a few short years that "leading edge" look is going to look...dated. Oh the humanity! Quote:
Here's a few peeks at form-follows-function looks. You CAN have both but it doesn't start with wild over-the-top sketches that have absolutely no respect whatsoever for function. You can do a wild sketch in a few minutes; starting with function takes a lot longer and is much harder but in the end I think the results speak for themselves. And that's my opinion! (checks shape; doesn't see anything that looks bent). It's all good!
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Pasts? You mean parts? If that's what you mean you need to read up on what they did with the Z/28; they went waaay beyond just adding some "parts". From the flow-tie, hood vent, fender skirts, underbody, aero parts, front grill, rear spoiler, etc. They did waaaayyy more.
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Some of my old Navy friends were on that carrier during filming. They said it was really cool (but obviously fake). Also, I'm probably not quite as old as you think. I'm just good at acting like a grownup sometimes
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03-15-2014, 08:02 PM | #126 |
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Everywhere I have read says they will be using the LT1. Is this official, or just a rumor?
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