04-07-2018, 06:54 PM | #1205 | |
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04-07-2018, 07:05 PM | #1206 | |
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04-07-2018, 08:23 PM | #1207 | |
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Yes ma'am, you have a terrific memory Doing great too, ready for all this pollen to leave so I can get everything all waxed up again ! I added some of those Heritage bowties to the truck a few months ago, they look so perfect with the blue !
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04-07-2018, 09:31 PM | #1208 |
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It still boggles my mind that people would think this is a small car. It's almost as long and wide as my wife's 3-row SUV.
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04-08-2018, 05:06 AM | #1209 | |
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Found a video of 2019 Camaro mules. You can clearly see the cleaner lines on the with the removal of the edges under the rear lights and the new light shape when the car is braking
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04-08-2018, 06:39 AM | #1210 |
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Same here..my SS is substantially longer and somewhat wider than the Japanese sports car that it replaced. I had to spend a day reorganizing my garage to get it to fit in there.
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04-08-2018, 08:03 AM | #1211 | |
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04-08-2018, 09:19 AM | #1212 | ||
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I know folks on the architecture side of the business at GM and it isn't from a lack of trying, it's just the result of packaging from the outside in rather than the inside out, or at least having a good balance. A slammed roof and high belt line, like a Chip Foose sketch, result in cars that look bad a$$, but don't result in cars that feel roomy. In some cases the dimensions can be the same, but the "feeling" of roominess is destroyed. Ed Welburn did some nice stuff while leading GM Design, but he was way too big on the BIG wheels, slammed roof and high belt look. It shows in the ATS and it's part of the reason that car has sold like crap since day 1. An awesome chassis in a car that under delivers and what a compact luxury car should. Try the coupe version which had to have a-pillars moved rearward and another roof drop only for styling. Wonderful looking little car...............but not very convenient to use. Worst (Best) example was the previous generation CTS coupe. Beautiful car................they made the roof so low you couldn't get a sunroof, only a glass vent panel. Rear seat? LOL.....if you are 9 years old. I will never forget seeing the BMW 3 Series that GM turned into an ATS on the inside very early in the Alpha development. Yikes! All a result of believing that people only buy you cars for styling. It results in beautiful cars to look at. And the Gen6 Camaro is all that and then some. Keep in mind too, Alpha is a compact car architecture. Not much bigger than a Cruze. The ATS montra was be better than the 3 Series for weight and handling performance, and they did that. Very well too. Everything in that program was focused on the 3 Series. Everything. The Camaro benefits from all that hard work on the weight and chassis performance. Part of the reason the Camaro is so outstanding in performance is the basic work done on the ATS. But the CTS is a compromise off of that same architecture, part of the reason the CTS is selling poorly as well. But frankly it's light years away from an E-class MB or a 5 Series BMW right now and regardless of the compromises from bringing it off a small vehicle architecture, it simply isn't competitive. It will be interesting to see when the A2xx comes out next year. I expect it to be a truly mid size car with no compromises. And that may be the bones for the Gen7 Camaro.
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04-08-2018, 09:46 AM | #1213 |
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I like how tight it is in the camaro, like your in a cockpit of a jet or something. But I can understand how for bigger people it can be an issue and unfair.
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04-08-2018, 09:48 AM | #1214 |
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well if you're going to talk about the ATS vs. the BMW 3 series. i looked in the back of a 3series once and the front seat was against the backseat, so i don't see how it's beating it there.
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04-08-2018, 10:02 AM | #1215 |
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I love how solid i feel with sitting in the Gen 6 Camaro , the 5 th Gen was like wearing a lose shoe . I have seen all sorts of people get in and out of Corvettes and those people don't mind or at least try not to show it anyway, i think more people will come to the new size over time .
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04-08-2018, 10:18 AM | #1216 | |
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04-08-2018, 10:25 AM | #1217 |
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Exactly the feeling I have when I sit in one. That's mainly the reason why I want a Camaro. The feeling behind the wheel is insane.
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04-08-2018, 11:19 AM | #1218 | |
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My DD? A base model 2014 Nissan Versa... Hell the thing has manual roll down windows and manual locks... At work I'll drive when we go out for group lunches. People see the small car and generally comment about not fitting in the back. Then they get in and this thing has the most leg room they've ever seen. Same for me in any car I've ever owned including my wife's Equinox. I can put the front seat all the way back and my knees still don't touch the front seat it if I'm in the back. What is Nissan doing right while Chevy crams us in their vehicles???
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